My first Rally :(

 

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I have posted some things from time to time & had a number of replies that totally have nothing whatever to do with what i had written. However i had a great time at the national & some of your points are food for thought for the future. It’s good that people put points forward & others don’t fly off on one as though it was aimed at anyone in particular. I’m sure this is the case with your comments. We all know how hard everyone works to put these events together & it is always shown in the thank you posts after the events. Maybe a good idea to have a comments book at the events so people can put the thoughts to paper.

Thats me done & dusted Wink

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Funnily enough not that long ago (as I was trying to get my head around my new role) Martin, Robbie and I were talking  about ‘what people want’ and the reality is - with such a diverse membership - it’s nigh-on impossible to give everyone their ‘perfect day’.

That said I have to disagree with Taff and Capt M; from the ‘inside’ this Club is doing huge amounts to push the Club further, it just may not be visible immediately from the ‘outside’. It’s neither my place, or the time to comment further but I think people will see movement in one direction or another very soon that will benefit everyone.

What I have to say though is that, as someone who spends rediculous hours at work and gets very little social life, then gets home and spends on average two hours a night on Club stuff, Louise and I had an absolutely cracking weekend and we were both very grateful to all those involved with turning an empty track into a successful motorsport event and an empty field into a National Rally.

That said the OP has raised some points of value, and I’m sure the 2012 Spring and National Rally areas (all of whom have committed to a huge personal and collective challenge over the following months) will be noting these comments in a little black book somewhere but I will just end by saying that, until you’ve had a go at organising an event for 1000 cars in your spare time, you really shouldn’t look in from the outside with rose tinted spectacles.

Rant over and out.

Well put that man & to the point. Is that how many cars were there P72?

No idea mate, but that’s how many the Areas have to plan for now as the Club evolves: over six times that number of members…just imagine if they all arrived for the same event Thinking

Cricky.

Well over 1000 cars attended the National Rally.  At one time we estimated (by counting cars in a line and number of lines) about 900 in the field, then there were others parked in the camping area, queuing for the Autotest and parked around the edges.  This number has been the case for the past three years now Big Smile

Salute

Hats off to you Sir.

As somebody who joined the club two years ago and has been to all four rallies since some observations. The club attracts an incredibly wide range of members both from an age profile and I guess a wealth profile but it is that ‘inclusiveness’ that makes the club what it is. Whether you drive the latest 3.5 or an early Mk1 the club accomodates all needs. We have enjoyed three of the rallies and perhaps less so one of them but we recognise that people put massive amounts of well intentioned effort into these events. You can “please some of the people some of the time but you will never please all of the people all of the time” we have also noted that some people are more eloquent than others which can mean that people don’t always put their point of view across as well as others are able to. I am sure SCFC wanted to make valid points, perhaps they could have been put a little better but that’s not a criticism. Some people are better with the written word than others but we all enjoy our cars which is why we belong to the club or contribute to these forums. We will continue to attend the rallies though we may not attend the dinners in future (but thats another story and no fault of the organisers). Its a free world, you get out of these things what you put into them and if you don’t like it nobody is blocking the exit door. We have developed a complete new social circle through the club and will continue to participate in most events, we also found the Northampton hosts to be very welcoming and particularly enjoyed the Friday evening get together. Great way to meet new people and in the end even £27 for 6 copies of STHT is not that bad value.

 Undoubtedly there are lessons to be leaned, but do people doubt they are being leaned? Less than 5 years ago, only 250 cars were expected at rallies, if 400 cars turned up to a National, it was considered a bumper event, it is now the norm to expect at least 1,000. For those mathematicians that is going from 5% and 8% if you were lucky, to expecting 17% as standard, how many companies would love that!

I also think the cookie crumbles both ways, the average member needs to learn too, and also those addicted to posting on this and other forums.

It is said that it is understood how much effort is put in to these, however unless it has been done, it is actually hard to understand why most people who have done it say, “never again.” For the 15-20 at Mallory, I still have over 700 communication emails on my computer. Some obviously were quick to deal with, others much longer, but at an average of 10 minutes each that is 2 solid weeks, yes 14 days or the family holiday, of reading and dealing with emails without any practical actions taking place. It also does not end with the last car leaving in the afternoon, the rally team left Billing on Sunday well after 8pm and there are still issues being dealt with. Of course effort alone does not make a great event but no one starts out to make a poor one and the paper is very blank when the planning starts, in fact the one and only time that the full effect is seen and to know if the layout and effect is right is on the day, too late to do anything then.

Certain forum posters also need to understand the effects that their negative posts can have on attendance levels. I read posts where people seem to delight in saying the weather is going to be bad because it justifies their opinion that the rallies are held at the wrong time of year, other posts on other forums about how anti anything the OC is and yet the content of their own posts is the most bigoted you will read. People need to understand if the foot fall increases then trader participation will increase and the whole thing grows.  My experience of all the rallies of the the last 5 years is that most have been sunny and dry, ask any cricket fan or festival goer if having an event in July or August is a guarantee of a dry event. We take our chance and usually it works. As for being old and staid, I have seen plenty of revelry going on in both the campsites and the hotels and a fair few hangovers in the morning, the OC can party even if it likes Old Shagg in its pipe. .   

So back to the original point, could it be done better, sure and if all it takes is for the centrally positioned OC gazebos to be moved to the entrance to make everyone happy then it’s a easy fix and we can all smile. Until that time, I will enjoy it for what it is and best of all it didn’t cost a thing. 

 

Fine have them in spring with an hit and miss, and in autumn which is even more hit and miss for a rag top car rally, I do not understand the problem why there can not be a summer venue, when there will be a fighting chance of some kind of good weather for a soft top car club, you yourself go to a lot of these venues all over the country with this being your bread and butter, and your passion, so with that in mind you are going to get some great days out of that lot somewhere?,<o:p></o:p>

I myself can not go to all the rallies, shows, venues and track days, as I am busy and need to pick and choose, and most of the out of season rallies I have been to with the club, the weather as been ■■■■, it is not a case of putting owners off, but the OC to maybe think about it a little and try one also in summer, I don’t think that this can be done with a click of a finger, but it will also give more areas a chance to get involved more and organise a venue.<o:p></o:p>

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As a pure guess - I would imagine that the rallies are spaced as they are to allow 2 per year with a reasonable gap between them.
As I say, it’s just a guess that it is the reason but it seems quite likely to me. If we were to have one mid summer, then the other would be in much, much worse weather.

 I am not wishing to drag this out, just that I don’t see that moving the event 4 weeks back-wards to our “summer” will ensure that a day will not be wet. How often does Wimbledon get rain, or a test match get affected? Apparently we had our wettest summer for a number of years this year. There is a summer country show and car festival at  Kimbolton school each year held in July, the last 2 years it has been wet and horrible and I have been on plenty of holidays to the coast in summer only to wish I was dry at home. What I do remember is that the Spring Rally in the Cotswolds was wet on the day and also last years National at Chatsworth, however I also remember the beautifully sunny days at Sparkford (Haynes), Belvoir Castle, Mallory, and this year the Hop Farm and Billing. My point is it can rain in this country on any day in any season and you take pot luck with the weather, we don’t do bad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/8409452/Britain-set-for-brolly-and-sunblock-summer.html

Well that was my second National.
I truly believe much of the pleasure can be derived from what you put in you take out
The biggest buzz for me at Chatsworth was that initial hit
ALL THOSE MX5S TOGETHER!
despite attending two subsequent rallies (plus Beaulieu) nothing will ever have that same hit as that first rally.
There was light rain but i was in a line of 5s looking at loads more 5s already parked (and the house in the b/g) and then loads more arrived.
It rained and many left including people who live a lot closer.
We were the last group to leave and we took photos of our cars with the house behind in glorious sunshine.

Kent ~ some rain
Mingled and meandered about
Again, one of the last to leave. Shots of our cars with the Hop Farm in the b/g in glorious sunshine

Beaulieu ~ ran out of time to do everything.
One of the last to leave (spot the theme there anyone?Wink  ) but took photos in (everyone say it together) glorious sunshine

Billing ~ one of the last to leave, in the dry (not glorious sunshine but Ken booked it for when i was wandering around the show cars and watching some of the Autotesting ~ cheers mate lol)

I am like a child waiting for Christmas re Cornwall and can’t wait to help Oxford Region when they (and everyone else)venture into our region next September.

I’m all for feedback. No one should feel that they can not suggest things that may improve events.
Of course, it also matters greatly how that is done

Again, ty Ken and the rest of the Northants gang. Rose

Just to clarify:

 

I’m not commenting on this rally, I wasn’t there. Please could people not “agree” or “disagree” with my opinion on this rally, because I don’t have one.

Thanks.

 I have booked accomadation in Falmouth for the spring rally. Just thought I would let you know that rooms are going fast. There is a couple left at the San Remo Guest House    www.sanremofalmouth.co.uk   I booked this one as it was one of the few with a car park that still had rooms.

 Does there HAVE to be 2 Rallies?  Why not just have the 1 big rally - that way more time and resources can be spent on it.  Due to time and money can people do both? 

 

The Club used to be just the single Rally (before my time so cannot comment) but it was pressure from the Membership that led to a 2nd; initially a May one-day event that has now become a two-dayer like the National.

The joy with the Spring Rally is that it allows the Areas at the ‘end’ of the road (for example Cornwall next Spring) to host and show off their Areas whilst also allowing for the National to remain centrallised to allow for easy(ish) access for the majority. Many are very proud of the area in which they live (who ever would have thought that we’d see a Spring Rally in Northern Ireland?) and the opportunity to show their area off just feeds the inclusion ethos of the Club.

As the Club grows, so do expectations and we are now almost victims of our own success with two two-day events each year, plus hundreds of Area events to boot. The time will come where two big events are not enough to curb the appetite…

 Thanks for the reply - fair enough.  Good points there.

I wanted to attend the national Rally, but unfortunately the Boss said that we had to go to the Royal National Lifeboat Institute rally at Kingston on Thames, so I missed out. The heavens opened up on Saturday afternoon and completely killed the rally for that day. But, next day was better and our (boat) club managed to raise over £500 for the RNLI, so the weekend was not wasted and we still had a good time.  

I don’t think it will make any difference when you hold a Rally, boating or car, in Britain.  I’m on the organising committee of a very large classic boat rally. This is held every year in the middle of July. In 2007  it rained so heavily on the Friday that it caused the river Thames to flood on the Saturday. That caused the event to lose many thousands of pounds. In  2008 - 2009 & 2010  the weather was  good.  This year  you know what the weather was like in July and we again lost many thousands. So! now the future of a rally that has been run for thirty two years is in doubt.

We are lucky with our MX5 rallies , it gives us a chance to drive our lovely little beauties to different parts of the country, meet like minded folk and enjoy ourselves, and if the weather is lousy , so what, we can always put the top up. I’m hoping that time will allow us to attend the Spring Rally in Cornwall, All those lovely twisty roads to attack. I sympathise with the organisers of the National, I expect they have put countless hours into the organisation. I’m also sure that it would have been good if there had been numerous trade stands to spend ones money in, but that is outside the control of the organisers.  Every event is organised and run by the dedicated few, just think, if there were a 1000 Mx5’s at the National that probably means a minimum crowd attending of 2000. But! I bet the organising committee is only half a dozen strong. So my hat goes off to them.  If I was able to attend I’m sure I’d have enjoyed myself and found a way to spend some pocket money. Finally, people must be allowed to express their opinions with out being pilloried the originator of this thread probably wished he’d not bothered, but without hearing opinions how do we learn.

Congratulations to the organisers.

Grantk.

The only way to garuntee the weather for an event in Britain is hold it in a big shed!!!