ND GEARBOX ISSUE

[mal_jones]

@IanH

@mal jones

One of my members has had problems with her gearbox she has had it replaced but the garage who done the work, a Mazda dealer, replaced like for like. She has now gone to a different Mazda dealer who are putting in an updated gear box as per Mazda GB instruction.

 

Mal, is that on a 2.0l?

 

Yes it is the 2000.    It is in the garage at the moment. But it is one of the earlyer ones.

[MX5_8ARY]

@OnboardG1

Since this seems to mainly be with 2L cars (the engine the vehicle wasn’t designed around) I suspect the conversation at the technical meeting went something like this:

 

Lead Engineer: “We’ve just finished the gearbox. It works a treat with the new 1.5”

Sales Executive: “That’s great Barry, but last gen we sold lots of 2L models. Will it work with the more powerful engine?”

Lead Engineer: “Er, dynamically yes, but we’re pushing the stress limits on the mid gears a little bi…”

Sales Executive “That’s great Barry, I’ll make sure your team gets a pat on the back. Now I have lunch with the CFO so ciao!”

But I’ve never worked for Mazda?? 

Barry

[Chris_Phillips]

@OnboardG1

Since this seems to mainly be with 2L cars (the engine the vehicle wasn’t designed around) I suspect the conversation at the technical meeting went something like this:

 

Lead Engineer: “We’ve just finished the gearbox. It works a treat with the new 1.5”

Sales Executive: “That’s great Barry, but last gen we sold lots of 2L models. Will it work with the more powerful engine?”

Lead Engineer: “Er, dynamically yes, but we’re pushing the stress limits on the mid gears a little bi…”

Sales Executive “That’s great Barry, I’ll make sure your team gets a pat on the back. Now I have lunch with the CFO so ciao!”

 

 

Nicely done G1 - you can actually imagine that happening can’t you ?

On a serious note though, I wonder if there is something in what Andrew Calcutt has just posted - is this the start of a problem with Mazda cars ?  The tip of a poor quality-control iceberg ?

My wife has had three Mazdas, as company cars - a 2005 Mazda 6, a 2008 6, and then a 2011 MX-5 - which we kept for over four years - ten-plus years of them.  Each one was superb - not a single problem occurred with any of them.  They gave sterling service, and were three of the most reliable, comfortable, and well-engineered cars you could ever wish to own.  Our experience has left a lasting impression that Mazda cars were amongst the best on the road.

But this spate of reports about 2.0L ND gearbox faults is worrying.  Are these issues likely to crop up with other models in the future ?  And is Andrew’s experience with the CX 5 merely a harbinger of bad times to come ?

Watch this space I guess !

 

[Keith_W]

[quote=rodders]

@1954

I have seen comments on the forum regarding a possible gearbox issue on some early 2ltr ND cars, mainly in the USA.

 

What is the issue?

my race car has had 3 yes 3 gearboxes in 800 miles. The teeth can’t take the punishment!! 

 

I do believe that BBR are marketing a turbo conversion for the MK4?  What chance has the gearbox

of holding together with all the extra torque & power?  It will be interesting to follow up on this even

following the September 2016 gearbox update.

Keith

 

 

 

 

[Countryboy]

Just heard from a very reliable source that there seems to be a problem for Ford with the transmission on the new RS.  So it’s not just Mazda, we just hear about their problems on the OC forum.  Wonder what the posts on the RS owner’s forum are saying at the moment?

[Drumtochty]

To be honest it is the instant availabilty of failure reporting that was probaly not available say 10 to 15 years ago or whatever that may well be causing the worry.

There has always been problems with Mazda’s as well as other Japenese cars but the majority have been reliable.

Therefore are the cars less reliable or are the faulty cars being reported on quicker.

Who knows!