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‘Influencer’ aka paid to advertise rubbish …… To55ers

They’re, there, their misusers

Me being grumpy at Christmas, due to all the – pretending to have a fabulous life due to drinking Baileys or some other putrid alcoholic beverage.

Happy holidays! It’s Christmas you idiots

Americans in general and their influence on life in the UK.

Grrrrrr

and especially adverts

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I regularly use a garlic press and know what you mean. The simple and cheap one from IKEA that I bought around 3 weeks ago achieves better results and very little mess. :grin:

Now you mention it, I hate preparing garlic for the press and peeling onions.:grin:

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Final Warning if you wouldn’t say it out loud in the presence of a 5 year old then this forum is not the place for it.

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Yes that winds me up too, ‘can I get’ I’m waiting for someone to reply, no you can’t!

Walking around with ‘coffee cups in hand’ we call them. Go in a cafe or at least sit and drink them.

German markets, what that all about??

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Sorry Ian. Thats what two tall JD’s and ice plus meds do to me. Fair play my good friend.,

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The older we get the wiser and more intolerant we become of the stupidity of others, at close to 80 I feel entitled to voice my dislike of various practices….

Bicycles and electric scooters on pavements…

Other drivers stopping and flashing drivers to join the roadway where I have right of way.

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Who was in fact a created as a social satire to expose and ridicule ignorance associated with working class bigotry.

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I upset someone a few months ago, I mentioned Cliff should give up now and Bucks Fizz and Rod Stewart. She goes to all their concerts, whoops!

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Ouch!
I wasn’t actually thinking of anything worse than “man”, and my comment afterwards referred to the degenderfication of words where anyone from an older generation automatically assumes that “man” in a compound word includes women as well. OK, you’re not all mind readers but my intent was innocent.

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Absolutely!

As was Eddie Booth in Love Thy Neighbour

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Friend of mine did just that. He had a stall at Glastonbury selling his paintings. He said “ no you can’t but I will get it for you and you may purchase it” :rofl:

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Well, not specifically Jethro Till. There isn’t much rhyme or reason just 1 of my many pet peeves.

My wife thinks it’s hilarious.

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ND12
I thought I’d put myself in there as I’m sure a few other posters would like to put me in 101, but maybe thought it’d be against forum rules, so being the considerate guy that I am, ND12, you’re room 101ed :grin:

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Were any other characters created to expose ignorance associated with non-working class bigotry?

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​While Alf Garnett’s bigotry was aimed at a particular class context, other fictional characters have been created with the intention of satirising or exposing ignorance and prejudice, though perhaps not strictly focused on “non-working class bigotry” in the same way:

  • ​Archie Bunker from the American sitcom All in the Family is a well-known equivalent. This show was a US adaptation of Till Death Us Do Part and Archie Bunker shares the same role as a bigoted, prejudiced main character, often having his views ridiculed by his more liberal family members.
  • ​The sitcom Love Thy Neighbour was intended to mock the anxieties of a white couple when an African family moves in next door. However, commentators have noted that this aim was often undermined, and the show became controversial.
  • ​The character Ali G, created by Sacha Baron-Cohen, has been described as a figure intended to ridicule certain aspects of Black youth culture or a white person desperate to appear Black, and has similarly divided commentators on whether he successfully satirises or reinforces racial stereotypes.
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What would you say about Hyacinth Bucket?

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Bouquet!

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The character Hyacinth Bucket (who insists her surname is pronounced “Bouquet”) from the sitcom Keeping Up Appearances is an excellent example of a character created to expose a specific kind of social ignorance and snobbery, though it differs from Alf Garnett’s working-class bigotry.

​Hyacinth’s defining trait is her relentless and often absurd desire to appear upper-class and socially superior to her actual working or lower-middle-class origins and current situation.

​🎭 Hyacinth Bucket and Social Ignorance

  • ​Target of Satire: The show primarily satirizes the kind of social climbing, pretentiousness, and aspirational snobbery associated with the lower-middle and middle classes who are desperate to be seen as “better” than they are.
  • ​The Ignorance Exposed: Her ignorance is not rooted in race or political opinion, but in her deep-seated lack of self-awareness and her misguided, rigid adherence to perceived upper-class social etiquette (which she often gets wrong).
    • ​She constantly tries to distance herself from her working-class relatives (like her sisters Daisy and Rose and her father).
    • ​She puts on ridiculously elaborate, formal events like “candlelight suppers,” treating her neighbors and friends with a mix of demanding superiority and awkward over-formality..
    • ​The Contrast: Her pretensions are constantly contrasted with the down-to-earth reality of her family (especially her sensible sister Daisy and her husband Onslow) and the sheer ordinariness of her life, which is a key part of the show’s humor.​
    • In summary, while Alf Garnett exposed the ignorance of white, working-class xenophobia, Hyacinth Bucket exposes the ignorance and absurdity of social-class snobbery and pretension in a distinctly non-working-class context.
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Who knows, maybe all of the TV channels associated with ‘those’ apparently troubling programs for ‘entertainment’ and maybe add Black and White Ministerials, Are you being served, it ain’t half hot mum etc, might apologise for creating those programs, as, after all, they seem to be quick enough to just down people’s throats and go on ‘cancelling’ crusades at the merest hint of someone not treading the PC trail.

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Overpriced delicious sausages IMHO :wink: