Traffic police using unmarked HGVs to spy on thousands of drivers

  

Sukebe for Prime Minister. 

Next time the Police and Crime Commissioners are up for election he would get my vote.

Rather than flogging them at the side of the road I would suggest hanging from motorway gantries. Far more effective and useful than the ‘Tiredness Kills’ and ‘5 minutes to Junction 3’ signs.

  

There’s ideal spots for that locally, at the junction of the A12 and A127 in Romford, “Gallows Corner”, and an ideally named “Hanging Hill Lane” near Brentwood.

Let’s also not forget that idiots using their phone illegally while driving or driving like d1ckheads are also more likely to be driving defective vehicles or be under the influence of alcohol or drugs - or both.

The more police on the road in unmarked (or marked) vehicles spotting / preventing this type of attitude to their and others’ safety the better.

 

You know eating a Twix while driving could be as serious. And the old days when you would try unwrapping that Opalfuit/Starburst, no more (pesky wrappers on those)

 

Things that can contribute to your prosecution:

 

  1. Using a mobile phone as a sat nav.

  2. Using the drive through lane at KFC etc and paying by phone

  3. Driving with a hangover, while under the alcohol limit.

  4. Using a Smartwatch while driving. This includes checking the time. Extends to other wearable technology, such as glucose monitors.

  5. Playing music too loud. It has to be “aggressively loud”, which is ambiguous. Is that dependent on the content of the song. So you will get away with a bit of Bernard Cribbins and Right Said Fred at full blast (as music about a cuppa tea is not aggressive) but not Ludacris and dirty Get Back.

  6. Using a handheld device while accompanying a Learner driver.

  7. Swearing at other drivers, or making a rude gesture.

  8. Inappropriate use of the horn.

  9. Having a dirty numberplate

  10. Snow on the roof

  11. Splashing pedestrians

  12. Pausing on the hard shoulder. Applicable to MX5s, because I have seen plenty pulling over to pop up the roof on club runs. A few rain drops on the leather does not constitute an emergency

  13. Using high beam inappropriately to flash other vehicles

  14. Stopping on the hard shoulder in a break down and taking out the dog. Unless the car is on fire, the pooch is supposed to stay put.

15.  Taking Co-codamol and other OTC codeine containing medicines, and driving. Co-codamol is something a dentist will often recommend for a tooth ache.

16.  Vaping while driving with the windows closed

17. Changing a CD. Also applicable to a using a blue tooth device being played through your car audio system.

18. Forgetting to turn your lights on

19. For the ladies, failing to declare a C-Section to the DVLA. You might think its none of their business, but apparently it is.

20. Looking at a Sat Nav while driving if it distracts. My Jag built in sat nav is horrible; the screen is low down, and early 20th century touch screen.

 

 

 

 

Think that is the other way round. Spending your dole money on crack is the reason your tyres are bald. Having bald tyres doesn’t cause you to chase the dragon. Are drug users more likely to own a phone than teetotalers? But does that say more about the gadgetless teetotaler than the drug addict? Some drug addicts might not own a phone, because they had to sell it to pay for a habit.

I don’t see anything to argue with here. They all contribute to distraction, not paying full attention to the road or controlling your vehicle in a safe manner. Sure, we probably all do one or more of these things from time to time (or all the time) but that doesn’t make them any more acceptable. That said, the C-section one is an oddity. On what grounds is it necessary to declare this?

Because if you are recovering from a C-Section, your mobility might be affected, and there is also the impact of pain killers.

 

 

Presumably then, from now on, you will not be driving yourself from the dentist. Codeine is fairly commonly used in procedures, and some hygienists will apply a codeine gel to make a routine cleaning procedure more comfortable. Some sore throat sprays will contain codeine.

 

The range of miscellaneous conditions is listed here;

 

 

ie. If you are HIV positive, there is no need to notify the DVLA, but if AIDS has developed, you must. If you are undergoing treatment for cancer, you need to consider informing the DVLA.

 

Don’t drive after surgery; interesting implications as increasingly, surgery is moving out of inpatient, and into the ambulatory setting.

I am having cancer treatment at the moment (on the 9th batch of chemotherapy) I asked my oncologist about this & she said its fine to keep on driving. I do however get free road tax & a blue badge.

Point is that irrespective of how many offences are committed whilst driving, in most cases they go unpunished because there is no one to enforce them.

  

Too true!

 

 

Agree totally- quite why so many in the UK are happy to be filmed by the absurd number of CCTV cameras, and now by self righteous dash cam users,   is beyond me . No other country would put up with it - I think we have more CCTV per capita than anywhere except North Korea . I assume all the 'if you’re doing nothing wrong ’ crew , by the same lazy argument , would be happy to have a police  camera in every room at home too? In order to reduce domestic violence sir ? My , what fun the police would have watching your home life and then selling the grubby highlights to Channel 5 .

 

I have something deeply to worry about, whether or not I’m 'doing wrong ’ - it’s called my right to a private life.      

  

I did say “if you’re in the wrong and get caught”, so where is all this “persecution of the innocent” phobia coming from?  You’ve assumed something that I never said or implied!  Please read what is written gentlemen, not what you think is written it would save a lot of mis-understanding and bad feeling!  If  you feel the need to comment on what you believe to be over-surveillance by the authorities you are free to do so, but do not attach those comments as an attack on a perfectly innocent post by someone else!

Yes - but think it through . If the police are going to covertly survey every person they see to check for wrong doing, as, in effect , they do with ‘safety cameras’ etc are you happy with that? Surely I am not the only person who breaks speed limits from time to time ? Are we happy to sleep walk into a society where every transgression of an arbitrary rule is punished through surveillance - 30 second stop on double yellow at 6am on a Sunday , 80mph on an typical dual carriageway, where everybody drives between 70-80 on them most of the time ?

Even mobiles - we all get hysterical about mobile use but context is all . Only a fool would use one most of the time but stuck in stationary traffic in a motorway tailback ? Who cares , frankly …?

  

John what you say may be true, but you didn’t have to attach it to a post attacking mine to say it, you could have made it a “stand alone” post.  Why pick on mine anyway, most of the other posts were saying much the same thing.  As you say, think it through.

Re this “covert surveillance”.  We live in a society obsessed with having every new “smart” device that becomes available that are more and more capable giving away our every action to anyone, not just the authorities, who has the technology to intercept that information, and that technology is easily available to anyone with the ability, legal or not.  On top of that there is this other obsession, “selfies”, with idiots photographing and filming their every conceivable action and then posting the results on “social media” sites for the whole world to see, and watching others doing the same.  There are even mainstream TV channels broadcasting programmes of the same type of rubbish.  The results are a society that has introduced and welcomed “self surveillance” with open arms, and pretty much everything else.  There was a BBC “Play for Today” in the 1960’s called “This is the year of the s e x olympics” where an educated elite ruled whilst the rest of the population watched and participated in live po rn ography.  I am of the opinion that that situation is almost here.