Hello all,
I hope you can help with battery recommendations.
I have a 2008 NC, which is quite a fair-weather driver and sits under covers over Winter, I have had it on trickle charge and will start it up and run it periodically. But with this recent very cold spell it is now dead, I got it started ran it for two hours had a 30 min spin out, switched off then turned the key and nothing!!
Any help welcome.
Happy Christmas one and all.
What do you really mean by ānothingā?
No dash lights? No clicky on starter?
Nothing can be such a relative description in these sorts of posts.
If you meanā¦like the battery is disconnectedā¦could be the main fuse but very doubtful.
By your description though I suspect itās deader than a dead thing with itās feet in the air full of lead shot and ready for the pot Captain Blackadder.
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Or water ingress???
To just go dead is a mystery but Iāve had them do that some years ago though.
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Itās just odd it 100% (?) discharged despite while on the move having seemingly responded well enough to a trickler the alternator doing itās thing on the move.
It would not have trickled up enough to kick the engine over on full amps surely if it was 100% goosed after all? Or did the big drain on start up just kill it off? Iād have thought some dash lights would have kicked in.
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It might be an idea to check the battery connections for tightness and corrosion.
If you do need a new battery, I agree about the Yuasa.
They have a really good reputation in the Ducati world.
Alternator? Thereās either a massive drain, a faulty earth or no charging on the go. Or is that too simplistic?
Might be worth using an auto electrician to rule out other potential issues before you trash a new battery.
Another check which i do and is very simple, get one on these below. An Aldi special tells me if the battery is low or 2nd pic if taking a charge when running.
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Not seen one of those.
How much?
About Ā£5 but that was a few years ago now. Think I saw something similar recently, not the same but more Ā£ss.
Thatās attached to a spare Panasonic battery off my NC 3.75 it probably lasted around 8 years. I just keep it topped up just in case, an emergency battery as such. It seemed slightly slower to crank the car over in summer with it on,now have the Yuasa as above pic fitted.
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Hello, sorry if not clear, I get dash lights on and just a click when turn the key, it was a bit lazy on starting last winter, doesnāt seem to like the cold much.
Thanks
Yes. Agreed; if anyone has any doubts, it is better safe than sorry. Professional advice is like insurance, it might cost a bit but is usually well worth having.
Some other simple checks.
Is the boot light staying on, put a phone in to record video and close the boot. Does the light go out?
Is something left plugged into the OBD2 port? That is always live.
Is the NCās dark current less than 38mA after the security system settles down to snooze? The auto electrician has the right tools and experience to check this safely.
We should all remember that an old battery might only have a few percent of capacity left (and Iām as guilty as the next man at trying to eke a bit more life from them). If a Smart charger takes it to full almost immediately, then thereās nothing left to fill, like a big bucket full of sand with no space left for the water; time for a new battery.
A good battery for NC (no āsandā ie no sulphation), but flattened, will take overnight on a 3.5A Smart charger before it is full.
When I replaced the nine-year-old Panasonic in my NC, it was down to just enough capacity to start the car ONCE, and then only if it had been warmed by the Smart charger for a few minutes, or was still warm after a run. The final straw was when the all-lights-flashing Christmas Tree effect happened on the dashboard, not enough capacity even to wake up the ignition system!
A new Yuasa YBX5053 was ordered from MBS overnight next day, and all was well again. Hereās an earlier reply from me with some pics showing what I did.
I bought a powerline brand from tayna.co.uk Ā£40 delivered next day with warranty.
Itās far better than the dead 10 year old Panasonic.
How many of those can I buy for the price of a yuasa?
Ps to test your battery put a multimeter on it.
Anything less than 10v when cranking means it is dieing.
Much cheaper than buying yet another device.
The cold kills batteries, but it sounds like yours has given up the ghost.
Well doneā¦
Well it will be better, itās a new battery.
Still only oneš
Tayna are good for supplying but their warranty is a pain in the ā ā ā ā - designed to put people off. Just going through it with another car and if I didnāt have a spare battery, Iād have had to buy a replacement while I was waiting for the warranty.
If headlights are bright but go dim with a click from the solenoid and no turning over, thatās classic symptoms of poor battery connections. If headlights are already dim before the solenoid clicks, dead battery
Powerlineās are āyour basic cheapo batteryā. Tayna sell them, as, I would guess do other companies with their own label on them. Iāve had a couple from Tayna over the years. One was a heavy duty for my then daily Peugeot 406 diesel. No problems with that. The other was for my MX5, as a stopgap. A cell failed on that after a few months. I took it up with Tayna. They sent out a replacement immediately, and without argument.
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Yep, Iāll not buy Powerline again. Bosch/Varta or Yuasa are far better ime and not that much more money- it only takes being let down once for that to be a false economy.
Exception maybe being if you are a battery flattener- leaving it parked without a battery tender for long periods, or if youāve a habit of leaving lights on. In that case youāll kill any battery sooner or laterā¦ Though, even then better batteries tend to be more resistant.