Damn u, Bluecol U

 Hi folks i find myself somewhat confused…whilst in Asda tonight found they were shifting Bluecol U (5 year) antifreeze 1ltr bottles for £1 pre mixed at 50/50 mix. Says on the bottle suitable for all engines and mixes with all antifreeze, conforms to BS6580(1992) and the stuff is blue…thought bargain £5 and i can do a coolant change, so bought 5 bottles. Though as i was just checking things on t’internet one or 2 places seem to suggest its a top up product only ? not a product for filling a full system. Can’t see the logic in that as surely its just 50% antifreeze 50% water, same as any other stuff. Saying that dont want to blow anything for the sake of a fiver.

Anyone care to suggest whats the deal ? should i use it or not ?

 

No reason not to use it for a complete system fill. Nothing will blow. It should be changed every couple of years, though, whereas more modern so-called OAT antifreezes, the pink-or-orange-with-green-tinge ones usually found in MX-5s, last longer. That’s why the car manufacturers use it.

I’m about to drain my car’s system so I can flush out the heater matrix, and I’ll refill it with the Comma blue stuff which is much like your Bluecol.

John

Interesting comment, might be nonsense:

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=14025

It is confusing nowadays, see this thread : 

http://www.mx5oc.co.uk/forum/forums/p/30182/207168.aspx#207168

I would stick with either Mazda green Super coolant or a silicate free solution (for a Mk I or II) - depending on whether you’re topping up or replacing. 

On both my Ford and Vauxhall I only top up with OE stuff.

 

 Thanks for the replies folks but i think what i’m getting at is not whether i should use OAT or Glycol etc its more about the actual product itself. Its marketed as a “top up” product, though its clearly 50/50 pre mix, but one or websites usggest its not suitable for a full system. This is the bit i cannot see any logic in ?

As the Bluecol U website says it is a topup antifreeze and does not mention using it as the main coolant (surely thay would want to loose sales unless there was a reason? may be it lacks inhibitors so as not to interfere with the existing coolant), I wouldnt risk it.  

Mazda Supercoolant is Glycol based with silicate based inihibitors. Needs to be changed every 2 years. You should still be able to get this from a Mazda dealers. It there isnt one close or if you want to buy online, Comma G48 seems the closest match. 

 

Hi Wazza99,

Anti-freeze performs three functions in an engine;  Reading Book<o:p></o:p>

1.     Cold weather protection<o:p></o:p>

2.    Overheating protection<o:p></o:p>

3.    Corrosion protection<o:p></o:p>

Anti-freeze can be used at varying strengths to provide protection against the varying winter temperatures that we the users can expect.  The stronger the antifreeze mixture, the colder the protection we get.   50/50 is a good mixture ratio for the UK and will protect your engine down to minus 35 degrees centigrade and boil over protection up to 129 degrees Celsius.  However don’t use neat antifreeze in your system.  No antifreeze should be used at strengths greater than 70/30.<o:p></o:p>

Aluminium is especially vulnerable to corrosion and many vehicles have heads, radiators and other aluminium components in the cooling system. If the coolant in an engine cooling system is changed before corrosion inhibitors reach dangerously low levels, corrosion damage is prevented.<o:p></o:p>

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The varying colours used by antifreeze suppliers denote;<o:p></o:p>

Green:<o:p></o:p>

Green antifreeze contains silicates, phosphates and borates as corrosion inhibitors to keep the solution alkaline. As long as the solution remains alkaline, corrosion is controlled and the cooling system is protected. Over time corrosion inhibitors are depleted and the corrosion protection is lost, therefore green antifreeze should be changed every two years.<o:p></o:p>

Red/Orange:<o:p></o:p>

Orange or Red antifreeze known as long life or extended life antifreeze increases the useful life of engine coolant. Long life antifreeze is also ethylene glycol based.  The difference between the two colours is that Orange / Red antifreeze contains a different type of corrosion inhibitor that has a much longer life than silicates, phosphates and borates. Orange / Red antifreeze contains organic acids that protect engine parts from corrosion.  Orange type antifreezes are suitable for up to five years or 100,000 miles.<o:p></o:p>

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Warning…!   Shock<o:p></o:p>

Green antifreeze does not mix with long life antifreeze, red / orange. Never mix the two colours in a cooling system. The organic acids in orange types will cause precipitation of silicates in the green type and corrosion protection is greatly reduced. <o:p></o:p>

Bluecol U Topup:  Big Smile<o:p></o:p>

It’s called top-up for a number of reasons.  Bluecol U is a universal top up antifreeze coolant which is suitable for use in all vehicles (both petrol and diesel) and it will mix with all colours of antifreeze already in the radiator / expansion tank.  Hence the name - Topup…!!<o:p></o:p>

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When Bluecol U is added to antifreeze already in the cooling system, the synthetic process and additive package in Bluecol U enhances and revitalises the qualities of the original antifreeze, providing exceptional all year round protection and performance in all driving conditions.<o:p></o:p>

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Bluecol U Antifreeze offers superior corrosion resistance over extended service periods, which can also be left in the system as a coolant and inhibitor against rust up to a maximum of 5 years.  Bluecol U is manufactured using demineralised water which is an added bonus.<o:p></o:p>

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Summary:  Dancing

In short you have bought one of the best antifreeze mixtures on the market at a great price.  I would not hesitate to use it in my MX5 if I were doing a coolant change.<o:p></o:p>

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I hope this helps,  (and before you ask… No I don’t work for Bluecol).<o:p></o:p>

Mike  Thumbs up<o:p></o:p>

 

 

 Hi again, thanks everyone for your replies.

As way of an update in the end i decided for the sake of a fiver i’d go buy some Mazda coolant. Mazda super green pre mixed from Wakefield Mazda £10.68+vat for liters. For your info part number is now KC050CL0054X, changed from the the last post i found.

Bluecol did respond though so i thought i’d post the reply.

“we usually only recommend this product as a top up antifreeze. However its is suitable to use for a full change. We only say to take note of the colour that is existing in the tank for future use.”

This came after my Mazda purchase, so they seem to back up what we thought would have been ok. Not fussed though as i’ll just use it as a top up.