Goodbye MX5, hello electric cars

Yes, taken… But The laws of thermodynamics Are not complete ! There is room for the unexpected addition to the Laws of such,
Science is updating all the time … who knows what tomorrow might bring,

Before the “Microwave” come on the market Few people would have thought ‘that’ technology was possible…
I believe that There is always room for something extraordinary to come about unexpectedly with the advancement of sciences,
Just as with The movement of waves at the seaside can produce Electricity … what if it become possible for the movement of a vehicles suspension were to be harnessed to produce a reservoir of usable Electricity … That could then be transferred to a “needy“ on board battery… A Vehicle suspension moves up and down hundreds of thousands of times during even a short journey… causing friction ( a source of energy ) etc,
Of course As we view such things today It would not fall into the realms of possibility. … So, Why not put a dynamo amongst the other moving ‘belt driven’ components on a vehicle’s running gear ?
I will have to look up the three Thermodynamics you refer to In order to see where I have failed the possibility, or impossibility of my theory…

I’ve Just had a quick look at the three thermodynamic principles that you depend on… But the sciences of it are not complete,
Because The sciences of Thermodynamics are at todays understanding of what science can achieve. But NOT of tomorrow … so to me,It is incomplete …
Anyway My water bottle is in my bed getting cold… My cocoa is also getting cold, Night night ….

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Did you remember your wee hat Ray?
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I never go tee bed without ma wee hat …

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You’d be better using the hot water bottle rather than your hat if you get caught short in the night :wink:

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‘ That’ has crossed my mind in the coldest depths of winter too !

Well for me the Subject of this Topic is exact. We are switching from my ND2 SE-L Nav and our Mazda 6 GT Sport to a CX-60. Not fully electric (plug-in hybrid) but its a move in that direction. I can’t drive the 5 anymore due to ankle problems and I’m not sure I could bear switching to the auto, also I’ve been reminded that we don’t need 2 cars anymore :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Thanks for bringing the topic back on course! I’m sorry to hear that your ankle problems are restricting your driving, but I do think that many people will be forced to reconsider their car “collection” in these current times and that full EV or hybrid vehicles might make sense for many.

You’re welcome :-), although it not an MX I might try and add a topic on here under General or similar to let people know how we get on with it. Our first challenge is where to plug it in as the car will be too big for our drive!

Someone else has said…

“It’s a nice car, well built and has fearsome acceleration in sport mode.”

And there’s the rub. Electric cars weigh 50% more but are accelerating like a super car . Do the maths. Where is the power coming from and how much is it REALLY costing in the long run?

I’m paying a premium on my electric bill to pay for the inducements to convert to EV’s. Who knows how many £billions of QE have been ring fenced for more subsidies, apparently needed for furlough, bank bailouts ,COVID recovery et al.

0-60 in 2.5 seconds and all for free? Sounds like the endowment mortgage scam all over again.

Safety? I’m not looking forward to having silent missiles coming up behind me round a blind corner on my walks or cycles around the local country lanes.

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At speed they’re far from silent with the tyre noise from lugging the weight of batteries around, it’s at slower speed they present a (lack of) noise risk and that is being legislated out on newer models with the requirement to have a noise generator.

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The Tesla I’m fortunate to have available to me (co car) is by a LONG distance the quickest accelerating car I’ll ever have… oddly enough, it’s the car a drive most carefully… ever! After the first few weeks of doing daft stuff, you learn quickly to preserve range by having a very light right foot, utilising regen-braking, minimal ventilation/heating etc etc.

Lots of compromises to get anywhere near the range quoted in marketing guff… and winter/cold is a REAL range destroyer!

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Charging tariffs are pretty much on par with ICE fuels now.
No way can this or any future Government kiss goodbye to even a fraction of two-tier fuel duties & VAT which I believe is in the region of 38 billions P/a.
Seems to me the best compromise right now are small cc ICE charged hybrids.
Certainly, there appear to be far more local taxis on that format than anything else.
Ideally, hydrogen powered ICE hybrids would be ideal were it not for the dreadful long term effect on some countries landscapes and mining methods for the basic ingredients. But, liquid hydrogen eats through pressure tanks eventually. Then there is the matter in the long term of disposing & recycling of millions of tons of deadly battery toxins.

Frankly, Mother Earth needs a few stonking great asteroids to get rid of the whole lot of us.
Whatever the formats, shifting a ton or two of vehicle only happens when somewhere down the line mineral depletion & fossil fuels have been ripped out.

Thank God I’m a 50’s era kid. Had the best of it all. Cars, rock n roll, Cremola Foam, & Vesta Beef currys, proper winters & summers, and Jaaagss.

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So many problems, so few answers.

Battery technology needs to improve to reduce environmental impact.

Renewable energy from solar, wind power, wave power etc. needs to increase.

Storage of energy needs an increase in capacity too. Pumped storage hydropower would seem to be the most environmentally best option.

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What we are actually seeing is another, irreversible step on the way to the nationalisation of private motoring. The Deep State doesn’t like us making our own decisions. The wisdom of crowds cuts no ice with them. It undermines their authority.

If they truly spend their days wringing their hands over carbon emissions, then after banning everyone from driving around with their headlights on in bright sunshine, their next move might be to reintroduce The People’s Car as mandatory transport. No, not the Beetle, the other one …

http://www.northwiltsmmoc.co.uk/styled-3/index.html

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I had to Google Cremola foam🤪

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Maybe, the capital costs are quite massive (though what option isn’t) and the available locations in the UK to do it at scale are limited without population displacement.

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I remember that!! I liked cresta tho [https://youtu.be/tvo2Hddqg3I]

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Not 100% sure how we managed to get so far off topic on electric cars.

However in for a penny, in for a pound.

Anyone else that had a Sodastream?

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No, but in Livingstone (sometimes within sound of the Victoria Falls at night) we had two of the Sparklets equivalent!

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Mosi-oa-Tunya , “The Smoke that Thunders”, at night ; easier to see if you’re glowing in the dark?

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