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Yes it’s needed as when the car is lowered the system thinks there is a lot of weight in the back so the main beam alignment is reduced to stop dazzling oncoming traffic.
Did BBR fit the leveller adjustment rod for you when the suspension was lowered?
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Here we are with the ‘just lowered’ look, and aligned… will post more later - it’s good
That looks really nice, the car sits so much better.
Have you inquired if the suspension lowering affects the auto headlamp leveling system. Please refer to my previous post on here re BBR headlamp adjustment.
rod.http://www.bbrgti.com/product/bbr-headlight-leveller-adjustment-rod/
Yes it was fitted.
Guys, considering this myself for my ND 2.0 Sport Nav. For anybody who has done this, did you inform your insurance company and if you did what was the increase in your insurance premium? This would be a factor in my decision as to whether to go ahead. Thanks.
Hi Guys, I am thinking of having this done to my 2.0 ND Sport Nav. For those of you who have had it done, did you need to inform your insurance company and if so by how much was your insurance premium increased (if at all)? Any increase in insurance premium would be part of my decision whether to go ahead. Thanks.
I was wondering the same thing as my insurer has told me that they won’t insure my car if I were to “mod” it. Just to clarify, they meant “upgrades” to suspension/engine/transmission etc. As everybody’s premiums vary it would be helpful if any increase was shown as a % of the original premium.
My previous car was a NC MK3.5 with Eibachs fitted. I insured it through AVIVA with no problem, they just listed it as lowered suspension with no increase to the premium.
I have insured my new ND 2ltr sport with AVIVA, but still need to find out if lowering my car will affect the premium before I decide to go ahead with the upgrade.
UPDATE - AVIVA have covered my ND 2ltr sport with the lowered suspension, and no increase to the premium.
How have you found the body roll since fitting the New springs?
Having the Eibachs fitted tomorrow (Wed 1st March) at my local Mazda Dealership, along with full 4 wheel alignment and re-setting the auto headlight levelling system.
Will let you know how it drives after I have driven it home tomorrow evening.
When I had Eibachs fitted to my previous MK3 and MK3.5 -30mm they eliminated body roll completely, the ride quality was still good.
So expecting the same on my ND 2ltr Sport…
I have just collected my ND 2ltr sport following the Eibach Springs -30mm being fitted, including 4 wheel alignment.
My Mazda Dealership who carried out the work checked the Headlight settings and they were correct, the auto levelling system had compensated for the lowering work.
The springs have transformed the car, the overall ride quality has improved, the steering seems sharper to react, the Eibachs have eliminated 95% of body roll and it corners as if it’s on rails.
The car was good before the upgrade, now it’s very good.
If anyone is thinking about having this upgrade done, I fully recommend it…
Glad to hear it has made a difference, sounds like an essential upgrade to me.
Thanks for all the updates here
1954 - any chance of you posting a pic similar to the one above so we can see the dropped look on eibachs compared to the BBR package?
Also what colour are the springs? Yellow or Black?
Cheers
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Thanks for all the updates here
1954 - any chance of you posting a pic similar to the one above so we can see the dropped look on eibachs compared to the BBR package?
Also what colour are the springs? Yellow or Black?
Cheers
The springs are black - Mazda Part Number: 4100-77-780 - Eibach Pro Sport Spring Kit.
PM SENT TO YOU.
Guys.
Appreciate the car will roll less and will look even better with the lowered springs but I do have a couple of questions:
Compared to the stock springs, do the Eibach springs make the car go round corners as if it is on rails but when the car reaches the limit the breakaway is sudden or is breakaway still as progressive and easy to control as on the stock springs? Mazda have designed the suspension geometry and bushes such that steering and camber angles change with roll to create the balanced handling.
From my past experience lowered (shorter) springs usually have an increased and constant spring rate to stop the suspension from bottoming out (hitting the bump stops) on normal roads but consequently have a much firmer ride. Do the Eibach springs have a more progressive spring rate such that for the initial travel the stiffness is the same as the stock springs and therefore the ride is not compromised on normal road undulations but as travel increases the spring rate increases to prevent bottoming out on larger bumps?
Answers would be much appreciated.
Cheers.
[quote=1954]
Hi 1954. My Mazda dealer has quoted £470 for the same job. A bit different to what your Mazda dealer quoted! Can you confirm that this is actually what they charged you?
Many Thanks.
First Rider Off
PM sent to you.
From what I understand as a Mechanical Engineer a car suspension system is considered as a spring/damper/mass system where the response to external inputs is dependent on the mass, damping coefficient and spring stiffness. Correct me if I am wrong but I understand that the 1.5 ND and 2.0 ND have different (stiffness) front springs to maintain the ideal suspension response characteristics, which is what I would expect. The 2.0 sport has different dampers to achieve a preferred response at the expense of ride comfort. It does puzzle me that the Eibach springs (and other lowering springs) are said to be suitable for all versions of the ND with their different masses and damping coefficients. Does anybody know what version of ND suspension the Eibach springs are ideally optimized for?
As a mechanical engineer for 42 years I was also asking myself similar questions prior to having my ND 2ltr sport lowered.
In the end I went with the Mazda lowering springs, fitted by a Mazda dealer in order to maintain the warranty.
The car now has a far more stable, planted driving feel and the overall ride quality has improved. 95% of body roll has been eliminated. It is not a hard ride either.
I contacted Mazda Motors UK by e.mail on a number of occasions via their website with my technical questions and they were very helpful, they also e.mailed the spec of their springs to me. See below, also link for contact and a telephone number.
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Shelby West
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Mazda Motors UK Limited
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This is on my shopping list for sure, and thanks for the updates on here
Another question!
Has anybody had their ND lowered using the Eibachs and then driven it with a tank full of petrol, a passenger and a boot full of weekend luggage on a bumpy road? If they have did they have any issues with grounding? I am planning to do a road trip to Scotland (NC500) and would like to be sure my car is not constantly scrapping its pert derriere if I have it lowered!
Cheers