Insuring an Import

 

 

Never had any problems insuring an import, ever, and they are not dearer in some cases than an U.K spec mx5, the main difference will be your excess if you need to put a claim in, I personally have always driven the imported roadsters, and other imported makes for a long time.

Not so easy to find a U.K spec Mx5 Auto Mk 2.5, but the imports will be around, if you look hard enough,the good thing about an Auto is that you are more than likely to get a good one as it would not of been driven hard?.

As said the Mk 3’s had a power shift , so maybe easier to find, but he will need to try both before making up his mind.

M-m

Mainstream insurers do not insure grey imports or modified (for performance) cars. That’s not to say that they can’t be insured.

UK 2.5 autos can be found, there are usually one or two on sale at any time (in the South East). These will be 51/02/52 plates.

I like both mk2.5 and mk3 autos - still a big price difference between the two UK models at the present time. There are some inbetween which are grey imports of course if you don’t mind the insurance issues, the different indicator/wiper arrangement, the non-standard radio, the lack of handbook, the lack of service history and so on.

There are some mk3 grey imports around, but I wouldn’t buy one personally as they cost nearly as much as UK models.

This thread is a miss match, to see how this all fits together ,you will need to read this thread where it as been taken from,somewhere in the middle??? http://www.mx5oc.co.uk/forum/forums/t/39633.aspx 

M-m

The other common insurance issue for import owners is that very often they will not be provided with a courtesy car in the event of a claim (justified along the lines that imports need to have parts ordered from Japan).

As usual with insurance, individual circumstances greatly affect both the premium, as well as the available products. These circumstances include age, address, job, driving record.

In some parts of the UK, it has been an historic truth that the insurance products available have been very restricted; the obvious example is Northern Ireland (not for the reasons you might think; the main reason is that NI juries can set damages, leading to higher damages payouts). For a long time, there was only 1 broker willing to insure imports, and, it nearly became none, after McWhirters decided to withdraw cover from imports, but thankfully, Aon, in conjunction with the OC, launched their Roadster policy, that included NI.

Although for me, the extra premium to insure a Roadster has shrunk over the years, I have to be mindful this has coincided with my approach into middle age. I was somewhat shocked to find out that in 6 years time, I can start making use of Age Concern’s services. I was in my 20s when I brought my first Roadster… So whats true for me now, is not necessarily true for others. I can say if you own a 1996 Roadster, live in a LU7 postcode, with a drive, 44 years old, no points, but a few claims over the years, and work as a research scientist, the extra cost amounts to a few tens of pounds.

 

TW Whites are a major dealer in NB automatics; although they are an official Mazda dealer, I do see that they sell imports as well (as a matter of fact, my present Roadster was imported by them in 2000).

 

Don’t assume automatics have been driven carefully. Go and have a look at Minkara, a Japanese car enthusiast site, and you will find plenty of automatics that are regularly ragged around a track. Some importers were crafty enough, when the cars were imported, to take off the go fast parts, refit the leather seats, and convince you the previous owner was a middle aged housewife from Yokohama. These cars can hide a lot of tales with a bit of t-cut.

 I Agree my auto (import) is insured by SAGA for £126 fully comp.

TW Whites sell NC automatics - I haven’t seen any NB autos there myself…

I did test drive one of their imported NC autos, but they were pretty expensive and I didn’t like the reversed controls for indicator/wiper and the non-Mazda (aftermarket looking) radio.

 

 

Oh well never mind.

Guess the rest of us with our imports will need to struggle then, my god.Rolling eyes

M-m

I think you are taking this too personally. People are allowed to have different views and preferences.

If I am being asked to pay over £10k for a car - it has to be exactly what I want. There are plenty of other ones out there without these (minor) disadvantages, which (even if you don’t agree) do affect saleability (to people like me - who are obviously not as clever as you). Very old cars (mk1s) are a different matter.

Anyway I won’t bother you experts any longer with my obviously unwanted views. Congrats on 5000 posts by the way.

They are and i do, but to scare munger the future ownership of an imported roadster, because of the ■■■■ you have picked up and believe, gets up my nose , you choose your U.K spec  and be happy and live long, but that does no where mean the imported JDM roadster is a lesser motor and in a shadow, if anything far better value for your money all round.

If you stick to your die hard insurance Co’s rather than shopping around for your best offer, then so be it,but the Co’s to insure a JDM roadster are out there, and will insure one sometimes even less than a U.K spec imported Mx5, as for the younger end with insurance on these little jems being high…so what…that will stand for ANY car they would try to insure, and they like the rest of us need to shop around for the best offer.

I personally would not like to be fresh faced and trying to get car insurance with no, no cliams under my belt now, as it is a stupid place to be cost wise, but just as we all did at some point, we had to start somewhere, no matter where the car as lived before you owned it.

So anyone thinking of getting an import to use…go for it as the scare stories are rubbish, and more than half the owners on here will tell you the same, whether it is a JDM roadster or a U.K spec imported Mx5 with the wipers and light stalks a different way roundRolling eyes which are all built on the same production line anyway, just enjoy the bl**dy thing

M-m

 

But there is very little reason to pick a grey import Mk3; the specs are virtually the same, and greedy importers are asking the same money for them (some of them were cashing in, and importing near new LEs and asking ridiculous money for them). If they were cheaper, there is a reason why you might put up with no checkable history, a rubbish radio and no manufacturer’s warranty, but they’re not. For the Mk2.5; specs are similar, and the main reason is to avoid terminal rot (I don’t see this happening with the Mk3, given the way it is constructed). With the NA, besides rust (which is now becoming less of a difference, since Mk1 Roadsters are now catching up with Mk1 MX5s), there are a great deal more models and specs to choose from Japan.

 

Technically, MX5s are built in two different factories, in two different towns; Hiroshima or Hofu. Only if you have a Miata, can you tell which plant.

 

 

 

But they are still both in Japan not here, as my point is that be it a gray importSleep or Mx5 they are not built here so they are all imported in anyway, so i personally am not ars*d either way, but to attack the imported JDM roadsters, and make a badged version called an Mx5  look on a higher plain does not make any sense in my eyes, as they are the same motor, just different specs.

M-m

Oh, and I forgot the MX5 allegedly assembled by Ford at their Pretoria CKD plant.

 

At this present moment, the disadvantages of a Japanese domestic market (to avoid that awful American acronym) NC over a UK NC are just too numerous to give it the nod. These disadvantages will include the extra insurance premium, the differences in spec (differences that don’t really improve the car), the poor value, the lack of any manufacturer’s warranty, the worry that Mazda will provide recall support, the hassle the local Mazda dealer will give for the most trivial of requests, the lack of history. This would be offset if they were cheap, but they are not. Unlike the NA, Mazda has chosen to saturate the market with NCs, such that they are actually quite cheap (back in 1997, I went to look at a 1990 UK car, and was told the going rate was £11k, compared to a new price of about £16k. My 1992 Roadster cost me £9k. Price was the only motivating factor in 1997. Today, I can get a low miles UK specification 2007 car for about £8-9k without a great deal of effort).

 

Prices to buy the car and import are stupid because of the yen, far cheaper to buy one here now, importing  them now is only worth doing if you are breaking them for spare parts to make some money back .

M-m

I have just insured an import Mk2 ready to pick it up this weekend.  It was to replace my Mk1 UK model. Infact the insurance was so cheap I added it on to the Mk1 policy for the 9 months remaining for £121. I get to keep the Mk1 now as well for a while.

Insurance company Aviva, they told me Jap imports of  Mazda MX 5 are no extra to insure according to their underwritersThumbs up I was worried about this until I spoke to them.

 

Mick

Thats handy to know for when I turn 25! unfortunately when under 25 alot of companies won’t insure you on an import all together :/ 

Except HIC, they’re really good, they quoted me £500 for my mark 1 Eunos Roadster import.

 

-Jonathan