So the Manufactures of keyless cars did realise their cars could be easily “broken” into and stolen with easy to make gadgets or even bought off the internet. Well I shan’t be buying my new car for a while until it is proven that they are thief proof. I think I am going to fix an earthing switch in my Qashqia like the one I fitted into my MX5 to cut off the electric supply to the doors and to the engine.
Buy the way as a small aside, since fitting one to my MX5 and switching the battery off, even tho’ it is in a garage, the battery does not drain down over two or three nights like it used to do. The switch is easy to use and the key in the switch removes from the switch to enable you to take it with you.
Keep the keys in a metal tin away from the front door or external walls, and they can’t pick up the signal. It’s the hi-tech equivalent of fishing the keys through the letterbox.
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My own experiments show that the tin should be non-ferrous material. Let me explain, in my ND with it’s “fob” system when you push the start button there are 2 orange position before the green “clutch down” start. If I put my “fob” in a steel tin/box that sequence is not interfered with and you can start the car normally. If, however I put the key in an aluminium container or cooking foil, when I push the start button there aren’t any orange positions followed by green. the light flashes green and the car won’t start. This would suggest to me that mild steel does not offer a protective shielding but aluminium does, which in turn would suggest that one (steel)would not stop the signal reaching a “cloning” device but the other (aluminium) would.
True, you will never stop a professional, but your “jack-the-lad” thief with a piece a plastic parcel strapping and a screwdriver can take a car with a manual key based security/start system in literally seconds but would find it almost impossible to take a car with an electrical security/start system, provided the owner took basic precautions with the key/fob.
Out of curiosity, how many combinations of the key lock on your cut off switch does the manufacturer offer? My bet is none, so anyone possessing that type of key can make off with your car? Granted, the battery is in the boot - or is it? Depends which model you have.
I’ll quote an unrelated example, from many years ago. I was in Alongquin Park (Northern Ontario) in a 1956 Chevrolet estate (basic model) Opposite camp site was a 1958 brand new Chevvie estate, the de-luxe model, owned by a Yank. He came across to me and said “I’ve locked my keys in the car - by any chance would yours fit?” I replied “Don’t know - but here’s mine anyway” He went back to his car, tried the keys in the drivers door, and lo and behold, the car opened. "He came back, looking a bit sheepish, and said “Thanks” - but then went on to moan about his dealer, who he claimed, told him that his keys were one out of thousands of combinations, and most unlikely anyone could get into his car. That struck me as ironic, but it proved the point about combinations of keys.
For thirty years, I used a key lock for electrical enclosures, always supplied with the same key by the French manufacturer (I had loads of them spare) - different lock combinations were special order, so in many cases I didn’t bother.- Very few panel builders in my trade didn’t bother either, as previously I worked for an electrical wholesaler, selling the same products, and most didn’t know that you could get different combinations, or didn’t specify them if the did know. That supplied key would open different locks - to my surprise, but proved that key combinations aren’t used that often, or are even available. Don’t want to worry you - but.
Any insurer will ask “do you have a cat2 or 3 alarm and immobilizer fitted to your car?”, and if you say “No” the price goes up in leaps and bounds, you are also told that both must be in use at all times while your car is left unattended anywhere, so rendering them useless is like giving your insurance away - if you lose the car, or anything in it. It may work for you - but sure as heck it won’t work for me.
And - on the fob issue, as I understand it, the thief has to interrogate the radiated beam from the fob in order to copy it, if the button isn’t pressed, then no beam. The media is guilty of over emphasizing what they can do, and some folk believe it.
Like ‘Click’ this week, who claim hackers can use your micro-wave to work for them seeking bit coins, a term known as mining apparently, with a quiet disclaimer towards the end, “If it’s modern, and has access to the internet” Yeah - right. We buy a new one every year? Every appliance we own connects to the mains only - hack that if you can!
Any appliance that uses the internet is a “No No” as far as i’m concerned, google is bad enough, never mind social media and ‘mining’ using my appliances is way out of line, so unlikely I will ever buy one. Do I really want a maker to now how often I use the toaster for example? - that’s my business, not their’s. The excuse “It helps us to diagnose faults, and make better units” prompts the thought - “Why not build them better anyway?” Another excuse for AI IMO.
My suggestion was to use one of those plasic bags with aluminium coating used to ship electronic parts. We use them in France to store our “telepeage” badge issued by the Autoroute companies when we don’t want them to be detected.