Mini Cooper S, Mini Works.

It’s many years ago now since i last owned a mini (i’ve had 5 of them) but i had a test drive in an 08 Cooper S yesterday and to say i was impressed would be an understatement…176bhp!     The garage also has a Mini Works knocking out 280bhp which i’ve not yet driven.

I’ve been doing a little homework and i’m becoming aware of oil usage and fuel pressure issues which is slightly putting me off.

This would be a 2nd fun car, the 5 is staying and pretty much laid up for the winter.

Has anyone owned one of these and would you buy another?

Hi
I own a 2004 Mini Cooper S convertible as well as a Mk2 MX5. I personally would not recommend the Mini. The steering is heavy, the clutch is heavy and when the clutch needs replacing, it’s a very expensive repair as I have found out.
Maybe I’ve got a bad one, but I don’t have confidence in it.
The only good thing about it is it is fast.

Don’t buy a BMW Mini buddy - it will drive you nuts!

I had a 2001 Cooper for less than year - drove fantastically but so many problems.

Forget the fact that it looks great and drives like its on rails, if ease of ownership is a higher priority than that you won’t touch one.

So many inherent issues - gearbox, clutch, sump gasket, water leaks, abs faults, electrical faults, door actuator faults. She made the MX5 look like a saint. 

When I bought her of an MX5 breaker ‘friend’ she had over 20 individual faults which I sorted out over the 8 months of ownership and at the end hated the sight of her.

One thing I will say - took all the water drenched carpet and foam out and we are talking pints of water held under the carpet for goodness knows how long and not a spot of rust on what was then a 14 year old car.  

My friend had a brand new John Cooper Works, after 3 weeks the gearbox failed. He took the car back and obtained a full refund.

He then purchased a new ND, he has had no problems at all.

Looks like they haven’t improved the Mini since the originals, of which I’ve owned 5…a 1963 850, 1965 CooperS, 1969 mini 1000 van, Clubman estate and a 1970 1000 saloon. All had the same problems, water on the floor, oil and coolant leaks, electrical faults, poor starting, overheating, under heating, body & subframe rot, gearbox issues such as jumping out of gear and jamming in gear. These are only a few, there were many more. 

To be honest I can’t understand why they became so popular or why they’re so revered by enthusiasts, maybe they like fixing them, or they have a masochistic streak that barking their knuckles satisfies.     

After what I keep reading about the new ones I certainly won’t be buying one, the very name Mini gives me the shudders.   

   

I have a 2012 R56 mini as my daily driver.

Absolute hoot to drive. My only complaint is the the heavy clutch - couldn’t drive it for nearly a month after an ankle sprain - was fine in the 5! Being the later version (R56 vs R50/53) it has electric power steering so is not as heavy.

Mines not an S so no charger issues to worry about, and everything else has been bang on for the near on three years I’ve had it.

Would I buy again, absolutely, unless I knew I needed a bigger car. Which I now do, and is the only reason it’s getting sold.

I’m sure most people thought as I did, that BMW being involved / owning the New Mini brand, that quality control and build quality would be top-notch - apparently not so !

Actually, I’ve read on here, in posts comparing MX-5s with the BMW equivalents (the Z3 and Z4), that the Mazda is much more reliable ! 

Thank you for all the replies, it looks as though i’m going to swerve the Mini and to put things into some perspective i’ve owned my current 5 for over 8 years.
In the last 8years i’ve has one puncture and one drop link fail on me, totalling about £25 in all.
I have a 2ltr Sirocco on the back burner that I need to look at.
As stated this will be a 2nd ‘fun’ car so i am in no rush.
Thanks, Dave.

Speaking about the bad experiences I had with 5 of the original minis, I discovered one good thing in their favour. They’re easy to push when they break down !!! 

I remember running over a flattened roadworks sign laid in the middle of the road one dark foggy night. I felt the impact underneath and half a mile later the engine coughed and spluttered to a halt. The sign support stand had ripped off the fuel line. Stuck on a country road, midnight, alone, cold, skint and desperate for a pee with the nearest phone box over a mile away (mobile phones hadn’t been invented then). Fortunately the fog lifted, the road was flat and I managed to push the car with one hand on the steering wheel, the other on the top of the open door all the way to the phone box. A reverse charge call to dad and half an hour later he showed up in his reliable Mk 1 Cortina to tow me home That’s what dads are for 

Surely being in the middle of nowhere you could find a tree to pee behind? Pushing the car a mile to the nearest phone box seems excessive. 

From what I’ve heard, going hand-in-hand with the above, is that there’s varying issues depending on mark of Mini. I was under the impression the supercharged facelift ones last pretty well, the earlier ones can have some issues (vague I know but specifics fail me off the top of my head), the early turbo had plenty of timing issues and the later ones (i.e. most recent) have ironed out a fair chunk of those issues.

Either way, I drove an '05-plate one shortly before buying my '55 '5 (lots of 5’s! :D) and it was a hoot to drive. I can definitely see where the appeal is with them, firm feeling gearbox and strong throughout the revs from the pokey 1.6 supercharged engine. I’d love the torque in my 5 but not necessary, mine’s plenty of fun as is! :smiley:

 

I found relief behind a tree in a copse beside the road 

There wasn’t much choice, either sleep in the car and freeze to death or push, keep warm and wait for rescue. Being a big strong lad has advantages. 

 

Better a copse than a corpse! 

I saw a mini for sale at the side of the road a few months ago, £500. Looked pretty decent for 14 yr old car until I read the list of stuff needed doing to it (on a sheet in the window) Looked a good deal of work needed to bring it up to a decent running car again. When I got home I did a bit of detective work on what’s what with them, I concluded they are more trouble than they are worth, bad idea.

Have you noticed how these minis are getting bigger and bigger now, sure I saw a 4WD one the other week, some actually look bigger now than a run of the mill say Ford Focus for instance, let alone a Fiesta or Ka

he hasn’t broken the gearbox yet then? 

Well in contrast to a lot of what is written above, I have a '55 Mini and have had zero issues with it. Its very low mileage and has been cherished by both myself and the original owner - I absolutely love it.

After having a lot issues with my knee I had to sell my mk3.75; I originally looked at an '08 JCW, 210 bhp and was an absolute hoot - after a bit of research the Peugeot engine in the early gen2 2006 - 2010 is pretty fragile, post 2010 it as replaced with a BMW engine which is fine. I was recommended to forfeit a bit of age and go for a late facelift gen1; great advice as its been faultless and it won’t be going anywhere for a long time. 

The money I saved allowed me to buy a mk1 and get it spot on, unfortunately after finishing it and driving it for a few months my knee issue returned so that had to go too