Hi I bought my MK2 2001 MX5 back in February and like most it only came with one transponder key,
I know that with one key you can retrieve the Code and enter a password to program a new key, or if you have 2 keys you can toggle the ignition in a sequence that will allow a third to be put in and programmed.
Timpsons say they can clone my transponder Key for between £40-60. a basic cut key is only £10
My question is that if I got Timpsons to cut and clone me a new key, could I then use that to program a third, or would the car assume it’s still the original as it’s a direct clone ?
The bigger picture is that i’ve just fitted a remote central locking kit with a flip key, which i’d like to use like a normal key, I’m aware i could get the blanks cut as a cut only and bury the original in the dash (bypassing the imobiliser completely) but i’d prefer doing it properly if I can. The flip keys don’t have transponders built in but they have space for one and I have got an old transponder key from a scrappy for £2 that I hope can be reprogrammed
No programming required here, unlike the MK2.5 - consider yourself very lucky. In order to program keys to any of these MX5 cars(MK1 - MK2.5) you need the eight digit PIN which would normally only be supplied by Mazda.
Cloning is the way forward with the MK2 - you can have as many clone keys as you like they will all work as the data does not update like the MK2.5(rolling security)
As you say straight forward job - key cut to code rather than from a worn key and cloned chip for around £50.
I got an extra key cut for my Mk2 at Timpsons. Just gave them the original and they were able to pull off the code and use it to programme the new transponder chip. Can’t see why they couldn’t do the same with your flip key fob as long as they can fit the correct transponder. From memory it cost me less than £50 for the new key and transponder.
Hey, thanks, if they can do that by key code then it sounds like a much better option than a standard key Clone. Getting the new flip key working isn’t a priority at the moment just something i’d eventually like to do. Only having one working key makes me a bit nervous so need to sort a basic transponder spare to start with, anything after is just a bonus.
I’ll pop to Timpsons and ask about coding instead of cloning (hopefully that will then allow self programing of a third, but we’ll see)
Had to drive past the Mazda dealership on my way to Timpsons so thought i’d try my luck, Quoted £200 for a coded key to be ordered in.
went to Timpsons and they can only do Cloning for £50 not programmed which is annoying.
And there was me going to the effort of explaining that a cloned key does not need to be programmed!
I would add that three years of working with and on these systems, programming, coding, etc, has shown that the documentation you no doubt found on google is incorrect in a number of key areas - excuse the pun. Sometimes it is better to pioneer with no information than to extract salient detail from misleading information - certainly proven to be the case here.
Not sure what you mean, I think it’s a terminology thing but either way I’ll rephrase it, Timpsons could easily clone the key for me so I had a working spare, but they couldn’t extract the code and create a new one as another user suggested.As a bare minimum I needed another key in case I lost the original on an upcoming trip, anything else is a bonus.
Unfortunately I don’t have the cars Pin number, so as you said.
Really appreciate the help and I may be in touch about how to get a code for the flip.
The key code is a five digit number unique to the locks on your car that allows a locksmith to physically cut you the equivalent of a new key rather than using a worn and quite possibly damaged key as the template.
Cloning is copying the transponder chip held within your original key.
Timpsons cut you a key and cloned the transponder.
As the original chip has already been programmed to the ECU from new, there is absolutely no need to program a clone. You would only need to program a chip to the ECU if it had data unknown to the ECU contained on it.
I hope this is clear and makes sense to you.
Why do you need a flip key for your MK2? - not seen one of these before and the car would originally only have two metal transponder keys. Some of the later MK2.5 cars had a remote as well as metal keys but only the MK3 onward had the flip key with metal key, transponder and remote combined.
I have been to ttimsons and the will not touch the key with a transponder in it the said they do not have the equipment to do that sort of work that it’s a specialist automotive key company or Mazda.ni been to Mazda for mine new key direct from Mazda plus encoding cost £40