MK3 Internal locks; a little surprised!

I’ve been playing around with MK1 and MK2 locksets for years, reconfiguring to fit keys, repairing, etc. Not much experience of the MK3 but recently took the internal locks off both a 2006 and 2010 apart. They are both exactly the same and I was shocked - see photo.

Hopefully clear enough for you to see that there is only 1 wafer fitted to both glovebox and console lock mechanisms standard, as opposed to four and sometimes five to the MK1 and MK2 internal locks. Door locks, boot locks and ignition on the earlier MKs have 8 wafers. These wafers centralise when the correct key is inserted to allow lock operation with the correct key or conversely non-operation with the incorrect key.
The single wafer fitted to the MK3 internal locks is nothing more than a gesture, making them generic. They will not only work with all MK3 keys but also with all MK1 and MK2 keys as well. Quite handy if a replacement needed but about as useful as a chocolate teapot for security.
The good news is that they could be fitted with springs and standard MK1/MK2 lock wafers to do the job they should have been manufactured to do.

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having seen quite a few videos from lockpickinglawyer I concluded that:
There is no unpickable lock.
I believe thieves wont go to the trouble to pick the car open - it takes skill and most locks need certain equipment. If you have the right equipment its fairly easy to open them. Knowing what the right equipment is the difficult bit.
Yet if you open the car you still need the electronic part on the fob to unlock the immobilizer - at least on my NC - so… not sure I’d worry about it.

I really wouldn’t worry about this ckleanth, well certainly not on my account anyway. You do not need to be a master thief to break into a locked glovebox/console; a child with a screwdriver would suffice :grinning:

That why ever since my Datsun owning days I’ve never locked a glove box or cubby again. On the Datsun they (thieves) wrecked the dash forcing the glovebox open, nothing in there to nick.:weary:

Arguable in many circumstances as to whether to lock doors on a softtop. How many have had their tops slashed to get to a few coins or a stereo inside the car.
Hardtops used to be an answer to this and also if the car stored outside stop water draining off the roof through the car, possibly accelerating corrosion. I used to hear a lot about hardtops being stolen but not so much now even though the prices have gone up and availability down. One of the main reasons I drive an MX5 is the opportunity to have the top down, so will never fit one; a lot of others obviously feel differently, so this will work for them.
I can remember the days when the thieving scum bent door frames over to get at a £20 stereo, so £500 - 1000 of damage likely done.
I just cannot see the point of Mazda fitting impotent locks to the MK3; why bother?
Either fit proper locks that at least make some effort at being fit for purpose or abandon the idea altogether.

I gotta be honest. I am disappointed at how ■■■■ the center box (where the fuel flap trigger is) lock is!

if someone wants to siphon the tank that lock isn’t going to stop them!

I have been thinking about looking into upgrading that lock and it’s handy to know that it is possible!

sidenote.
I used to work in a cycle shop and we used to get people bring bikes in with locks on that they had lost keys for or had forgotten codes or the lock had simply seized up!
so while working there I learned about locks and how to pick or break them and in some cases how to make a skeleton key!
now this was all for bike locks but a lock is a lock and they all share some basic traits!
also, lockpicking lawyer is a great channel!

There was a well known MX5, who, frustrated by the number of roofs he had to replace following break ins on his driveway in Dublin, fitted a fancy microwave alarm, motion activated CCTV, and took to leaving the door unlocked, US style (at the time, there was a lot of debate on te miata lists whether you locked your car or not).

The predictable happened. Subsequent footage saw the likely suspects casing the neighbourhood in a Starlet, before deciding on the MX5. There was great footage of the pair shoving a screw driver through the roof at various places to try and reach the internal lock release. After failing, they tried the door to find it was unlocked. Cue alarm, and then moments later, the owner coming down in his jimjams with a crowbar, chasing them off, then staring ruefully at his torn roof

It was as a MX5OC meeting that my MX5 was taken for a spot of joyriding, and then torched once they had their fun. But mine was the only one to be attacked that night. Two others, in the row, were broken into, and you could see an evolving methodology of sorts. The first, a prospective member who we never saw again, haf a smashed in quarter light. The next, they had smacked in a screwdriver into the door look, wrecking the handle and mangling the door skin.

Then they had mine. In the smoking ruins of the car, I found a screwdriver that wan’t mine.

From helping out the second victim, who dodn’t have a lot of money, but loved his MX5, we figured out how to get a second hand lock woring with an original key. Yes, probably finished with less leaves than before, and a bit of mixing/matchng/filing the leaves, but we had a functional lock for not a lot of money.

Recently I took a closer look at my long time rattling glove box in the S-Spec I have owned since 2005. I had always imagined it was due to a worn part. The lock assembly is secured to the glovebox moulding by a series of self tappers. Upon dissassembly, every single moulding into which the screws engaged was shattered. The pieces of plastic were nowhere to be seen. Then it made sense. Someone had forced the glove box open, breaking of the lock assembly. In subsequent repairs, someone had got enough “bite” with the screws and the remaining bit of plastic, to get the glovebox to go back together, to avoid replacing the whole glovebox. Over the years, this “repair” had given up (currently I’ve used distinctly non-Mazda longer screws to work for now, until I get around to fitting a new glovebox). When I brought the car in 2005, I knew sometime between its import in 2000 (by TW Whites) and 2005, the Mazda dealer had replaced the passenger door skin and glass (with non-Mazda glass!). Its clear now; the car had suffered a break in (it was owned in London). Clearly the lock on Mk1 glovebxes at leat, offers little to no defence against break in.

So, you’re not going to outsmart them. Just do what you can to slow them down, so they’ll lose interest, or buy you time