My first car crash

It was only a matter of time before I was going to have my first car crash, and unfortunately it had to happen whilst driving my 5. I was just driving along when a van pulled out from a junction in front of me, slammed on the brakes but there was nothing more I could do.

Mechanically, she seems to be fine. I was able to drive her the 2 or so miles home and all the dials were reading fine + no new noises. Had to keep the steering wheel at 40 degrees to keep her straight, but she did go straight. There is some frame damage but I am willing to spend to keep her alive.

Have spoke to my insurance and they are letting me keep the car, obviously classed as a write off? Total? im not to sure. But I am determined to get her back on the road as soon as possible.

With that being said, does anyone know any good specialists in the basingstoke/farnborough area? I’m sure I could do some of the work needed, but frame repairs might be a bit out of my league.

same 2yrs ago white van but sorry to see yours smashed

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The Mx5 with beige roof is my replacement

If the chassis is bent in front of the ARB mounting only it is saveable. If bent further back then say goodbye.

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The deal breaker will be damaged ( or not) chassis rails etc etc plus repair costs.
You know as I do, a straight chassis of all cars is crucial.
If the rail/s are well out of true it’s a scrapper
On the upside it’s got a very decent MOT history, and it’s not really on excessive miles.
Selling on in time will take a lot of pragmatism from a buyer given it’s write off status.
Yes, been there, got the Tshirt.
Cliche Alert:
At least you walked away.

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Having recently lost an ND I know how you must feel - gutted! You have my sincere best wishes for the future. As others have commented, nobody was injured and that is the most important thing!

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Never understood how some people get there license, looks like you managed to get a good replacement though.

Pretty sure most of the damage is concentrated to the front corner, i’m not 100% sure if it’s savable yet but I am keeping my hopes up

As mentioned just above, pretty sure most of the damage is on the front corner, the MOT history and the millage were the main reasons I brought this one, would be a shame to have it taken off the roads. Luckily have walked away with just a grazed hand, definitely could’ve been a lot worse.

Very lucky to have walked away with just a small graze on my hand, hopefully nothing else creeps up in the next couple days. I’m more emotionally hurt then anything, never fun to be involved in a crash.

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When I high-sided my 999, I was advised to go for a negotiated settlement.
This meant I got paid what it would have cost them to repair the bike but I was able to get parts, fairing repairs and paint cheaper, so I ended up a grand in pocket and it wasn’t written off.

Sympathy. They might well have killed a classic, and lucky not to kill a person. But who has never had the experience of a near miss because we just didn’t see another vehicle, or been a victim?

When I was 19 I had a scooter, and a car pulled out and stopped in front of me while he waited for a gap on the other side of the road to turn right into. I was literally 5 yards from him, hit him amidships and pitched over the roof of his car. Lambretta dead, me just grazes. He said “you must have been speeding, you weren’t there when I looked”. I’d been doing about 20.

Two little known facts -

The first one explains the frequency of SMIDSY’s - it’s possible to look, without seeing.

Secondly, if drivers were taught why this is, and how to avoid it, they wouldn’t pull out in front of MX-5’s and other road users. Lives would undoubtedly be saved.

Many will have seen this already but I keep sharing it.

A Fighter Pilot’s Guide to Surviving on the Roads

That’s a pdf link, if it dies then just google the link title, there are many copies on the internet.

The main problem is that we tend to scan for traffic as if we can do it like a video camera pans. The reality is that vision doesn’t work that way. You can only see things you actually look at, when you look at them, plus a little bit of peripheral vision. When your eyes are moving from one object to another, you see nothing at all. You don’t actually notice the view go blank, because your brain edits that bit out, but you are blind. It’s easy to prove, just stand in front of a mirror and look at one of your pupils. Then switch to looking at the other one. You can’t see your eyes move, however hard you try. It’s not because your eyes don’t move enough - if you get somebody else to try it while you stand next to them, you can very easily see their eyes move.

Apologies to those who’ve seen this before. It’s been around for at least 10 years to my knowledge. I hope others find it as useful as I did.

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Biker’s nightmare!

I still remember driving towards Wolverton (before Milton Keynes was built) my mate on the pillion and both snug and warm behind a Dulux Brilliant White full Avon fairing with 609AFC where it would normally say POLICE, cruising at 80 along a beautiful dead straight three-lane road (my lane, suicide lane, oncoming lane).

An immaculate black Vincent went past us as if we were standing still, we were impressed. I still remember my mate commenting on the superb set of black leathers that looked very expensive to us scruffy students.

Two minutes later we caught up with the Vincent, embedded in a Mini, just behind the B-pillar, and the rider was storming back up the road having gone straight over the top. Fortunately he was using rear-sets and clip-on grips and without a big handle bar to trap his knees he simply kept going when the bike stopped.

We stopped to help and the Mini driver was just sitting there, mouth gaping like a fish out of water.

The Mini had been about to finish turning right out of a side road. You can guess what the Mini driver said.

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Ouch!

I had a SMIDSY. Big red faired bike, with headlight on. Straight suburban road with 40mph limit, perfect conditions, perfect visibility. I saw the car stop at the give way lines waiting to join the main road. As I approached I slowed and give him a little toot of the horn to alert my presence (something I often do if I have any doubt about whether someone is aware of their surroundings). And as I passed he drove into me, T boning me. The bike endoed, I went high in the air and landed face down.
I rolled to the side of the road and thought I had crushed my lower left leg and damaged my right arm.

Turned out the leg was fine, good boots to the rescue there, but had ligament damage in my hand and shoulder (ended up having plastic staples reattaching ligaments/tendons in the shoulder about a year later), and my left kidney had ripped is moorings resulting in me almost popping my clogs from undetected internal bleeding that evening. Girlfriend took me to the GP because I was so poorly, and they blued and twoed me into hospital where they kept me in bed for over a week. I was told the strain of doing a poo could lead to a catastrophic bleed. Nice, death by sh*tting.

The driver of the car was in complete shock. He sat crying on the kerb, and phoned me later to apologise. It was his girlfriends car and he thought he was taking extra care and looked but just didn’t see. All he knew about it was a bang when he pulled out. One of the ironies is that if I hadn’t had my Captain Sensible IAM hat on, and had been pushing the limits a bit I would have passed infront of him without issue.

The bike was written off, but I know went back on the road from looking at the MOT checker on line.

Just after that, when well enough I bought a BMW convertible, because life is too short, and that opened my eyes to the joys of open top motoring. Every cloud has a silver lining.

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I think a large part of the problem is that people are just not looking for bikes.

Trucks, cars and buses all register but bikes get filtered out somehow.
My ploy, if I wasn’t sure about a car waiting to pull out, was to weave to make me more visible and more likely to register in the driver’s brain. I don’t know how much it helped towards it but it never did happen

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You’re absolutely right that they don’t see bikes and this is because of the filtering mentioned previously. The result is that people see only what they expect to be there: cars, buses, lorries–and that’s it. They simply aren’t looking for motorbikes unless they’re aware of them from any form of personal experience.

The most extraordinary example of selective attention can be seen in this video demonstration:

It’s a mechanism the brain uses to reduce processing load, since it doesn’t help us if we notice bushes, posters, walls, sheep, etc. The problem is that it means that people simply do not see what is right in front of them.

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There is another element in play, I once owned a VFR750 and a tuned Gilera Runner 180 with a LOUD race pipe (2 stroke) - both silver.

When I went to work on the Honda, no-one pulled out on me, when I was on the scooter - which did about 90mph and accelerated stupidly fast - someone did literally EVERY morning.

I honestly think drivers saw the scooter but thought it was a 50cc hair drier, so couldn’t be going any faster than 30mph.

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Yes, road presence is really important.
That’s why I converted the sidelight of my 999 to a drl with a bright white led
Have done the same to daughters Fireblade.
Have also replaced the parking lights on the Miyako to bright led and converted the foglights to DRLs similarly.

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Dad likes to tell the story of his buddy who fitted his Pan European with a white fairing and orange reflective strips. While it looked nothing like a police bike on second glance, it was amazing how many more people saw it on first glance! Riding with this fella in the group apparently made a huge difference to the amount that people saw them. :smirk:

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I drove buses for many years before retiring and had at least two accidents where people pulled out in front of me from side roads. Once again the stock answer was “sorry I didn’t see you”! In both cases the real answer was that they didn’t even look!

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