NBFL MK 2.5 Headlight Conversion RHD to LHD

 

Hi

 

I hope this post may help others. I searched long and hard, but could not find any posts relating to the MK 2.5.

I wish I had taken pictures,  only thought about doing this write up afterwards…durr

Having just bought my 2003 MX5 1.8 MK 2.5 Montana, and exported it to France where I now live, I have to change the headlights to a LHD pattern to conform and pass the CT (French MOT).

Looking at new prices (£400-500 a pair), I decided to see if I could modify the existing units. I have successfully done this on my Jaguar X Type previously.

After removing the units, split them in half. I used a hot air gun, others have baked them in the oven for around 20 mins gas mk 5, to melt the black mastic type substance which holds the 2 halves together. My oven wasn’t big enough! There are a couple of screws to remove and 3 clips to detach also. Don’t try to bend the clips back until you have warmed the plastic up, as they are liable to snap. There are plenty of online videos showing how to open up this style of headlight.

Once open, adjust the adjusters so that you can access the two screws to the rear of the dipped beam pod, which hold the reflector to the pod. These were very tight. Support the pod from underneath with blocks of wood to stop the adjusting mechanism from becoming detached during the process.

 

Once the reflector is free from the pod, you can access the screw which holds the beam plate in position. Remove the beam plate from the headlight unit.

The top of the beam plate is shaped like this for RHD —___ but needs to look like this for LHD ___/—. On the Jag, the beam plate was flat. On the Mazda, it’s a 3D curved shape, which made the construction of the replacement beam plate a bit trickier . 

 

I made an accurate template from paper, and then used this to make a replacement beam plate from a sheet of galvanised tin.

 

The next step was to grind the original beam plate flat at the top. The replacement beam plate was then fixed to the original with 4 rivets. Its position is critical, so take you time. I used a couple of small clamps to hold it in place whilst making the fixing holes. A quick dab of high temp silicone was used to fill the centre of the rivet holes and the bottom of the joint between the old and new beam plate. This will stop any light bleeding through and spoiling the beam pattern. I then sprayed the assembly a matt black.

 

Reassembly is a direct reversal of disassembly. Take great care to keep everything clean.

 

Before I started I marked the position of the beam pattern (RHD) on the garage doors with masking tape. This gave me a reference point for adjusting the headlights one reinstalled. I subsequently took the car to my local garage to have the headlights properly adjusted using the CT (MOT) machine.

 

The original RHD beam pattern looked like this ___  ___, the new LHD beam pattern looks like this /  /

 

Including removing and replacing the headlights, it took me about 6hrs, inc tea breaks.

 

Saved a few hundred quid, and the process is totally reversible should the car ever go back to the UK.

 

If anyone needs help with this, send me a PM.

 

Hope this helps others.

 

LffSam - Thanks for this, though frankly I don’t immediately understand what you’ve done! (Busy so I’ve printed it and will read when I have time!) However, I take your word it works, and considering the cost of LH headlights, it’s a B***** good tip!

I’ll ask my Friend Mondrian what he’s done, as he now has several ex UK cars, and considering the French price of S/H cars, it could come in useful for other buyers, one who is arriving around now - I think.

LffSam - nearly forgot, can I point this post out to you -

http://www.mx5oc.co.uk/forum/yaf_postst95734_The-Gathering-Normandy-2017.aspx

You may - or may not be interested, but so far we have over 20 UK cars pre-registered, so overall should be a good turn out.

Well done,
I got mine from German Breakers at a fraction of the money, delivered. Lot less hassle and I always have the old RHD ones on the shelf.
Frog

H’mm - good point, I think that’s what I would do if I was in the same situation. However anything that saves brass can’t be discounted.

 

Thanks for the invite Gerryn…I will see where we are at a bit nearer the time.

I tried the second hand route, Ebay Gremany, Bon Coin etc, but was still looking at over £200 inc delivery. I have also bought second hand headlights for other vehicles which have arrived with mountings " broken in transit"…

I posted a link to this thread to Mondrian - my friend in Normandy, he’s just replied and says “This is o/k for the Mk2.5, but not for the Mk2 - the optics aren’t the same”. He’s recently bought a 10AE - from the UK, and had to buy a S/H set of L/H headlights from a guy he knows in Spain."

So, now you know!

Hi Gerryn,

This will only work with projector style headlights, which the NB doesn’t have…

Hello

Exactly where i am
A French guy did it and explain me the same
But i am not able to do the conversion, i know my limits
So looking to buy a pair of Lhd , in good shape for my 2.5
If some one have a good adress, i can have a pair for 200, let me know
Thank you

Op, where do you leave in France?

mopti
suggest you go on e-bay allemand
search
“MX5 NB scheinwerfer”
there are some with the adjustment motor “stellmotor” - essential
make sure no damage to the plastic locators
looks like about 300 euros for two
regards
Frog

Thx Frog

Is it where you got yours?

Hi mopti

 

I live about 20 mins from exit 20 on the A20, postcode 36190.

 

Modification is by far the cheapest route to go. The RHD headlamps are worthless here in France, so what have you got to lose ?

 

If you are happy to dissasemble the units ( not difficult at all, and lots of online videos to explain how to ), I would be happy to modify the beam plates for the price of a couple of beers…Grimbergen of course ! If you are not close enough to me you could post them.

 

Richard

Hello

Very interesting post

How do you reassemble the whole thing , i mean the two parts, with a spécial glue, a silicone ?
If you where closer , i would have come to make it with you, but i am 400 + kms from you

Do you know a vid explaining the whole process , i am not very good at mechanic

Thx

There are plenty of videos on youtube showing how to open projector style headlights.

Reassembly is just a case of heating the two halves up again ( I used a heat gun ), until the original black mastic type glue is soft and then pushing them together with hand pressure until they are correctly seated.

It really is quite simple.

If you want to send me the headlights I will do the whole job for you. €100 should cover it, plus you pay the postage both ways. PM me to sort out the details

Cheers

Richard

mopti
I got NB ones from ebay allemand
I got NBFL ones locally in France (lucky chance) but they can be found on ebay allemand

Your car is 2001 model so is it an NB /Mk2 or NBFL /Mk2.5? Make sure you get this right if ordering on ebay
The NB will have the all in one units with a single bulb with dip and main beam.
The NBFL will be the projector type with two separate lamps and separate dip and main beam (it is this type that Richard has modified I think)

Frog

Hi Frog & mopti

 

Thats right, you can only do the NBFL lights, not the NB

 

Cheers

 

Richard

Hi all

 

Lffsam / Richard, thanks for the post.

 

I’m following in your footsteps and trying to do my own conversion, however, I have hit two road bumps. The first is that I can’t get the screws off the beam plates and I’m starting to damage the screw head. How did you manage to do it?

The other problem is that I can’t find anyone who is able nor willing to make the plate for me as it’s too far above my skill level.

Do you still offer to do the conversion? I have got the lights in half but don’t know how to go any further. If not, no worries. The post was very useful. 

I’ll upload a photo of the beam plate so others know what to look for.

Huw

i had another thought… They have loads of Mazda MX5 miatos in the states and the lights look the same as the mk2.5. 

 

Has anyone ever tried purchasing and installing them? 

Finally, I’m new and I can’t for the life of me work out how to upload a photo! If anyone knows please let me know and I will get one up.

 

cheers 

 

huw