.No idea who put this here or why, it wasn’t me.
Not supported by the supplier, but as for the Chinese (racist?) remark. Too much of a generalization. Lots of stuff made in China that is good. Apple etc
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This is not a racist remark but I have bought a number of items through Amazon purporting to be manufactured in the UK/EU. When they have failed or not been to the advertised specification and I have tried to return them for a refund I have found the return address to be somewhere in China with a ridiculous returns cost. Email contact has resulted in very little help, if not obstructive and have in the end had to resort to a refund direct from Amazon.
Yes, there are some very good products from China at reasonable cost, but if things go wrong then you have very little recourse for compensation of any kind.
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It’s entirely the luck of the draw,
You can equally end up with fake rubbish from Eastern Europe…or just Europe.
I’ve been getting Chinese made articles from Amazon for years without any issues but not with my eyes wide shut and my wallet wide open.The only Chinese made duffer was a clockwork oven timer at around a fiver so it was not worth bothering about.
You must have seen the sort of severe punishments they meet out to the likes of toxic baby milk fakers…I think a few were even executed.
However, here comes a flip side and thankfully it does not involve my wallet. In Scotland we are dealing with this stupid house alarm system legislation that kicks in on 1st Feb. Some Insurance companies are stating if you do not comply, your insurance could invalidate.
A good friend of mine, professional leccy, did ours last week with the triple kit, and it worked fine on test, one of a batch of 300 he imported form China direct.
But…he saw the identical kits again in China 40% cheaper…trouble is, they have no guts and are just empty copies. Total loss. That is just pure fraud of course, not poor quality.
I recall the MG OC having big issues with imported prop shafts & UJ’s for Bs etc that twisted like hot toffee, and cylinder heads…all supplied by a well known UK specialist, The heads were porous as a rotten seive. Then there were the Champion plugs whose electrodes detached and put nice dents in piston crowns…same supplier.
On the whole everyone…believe me if you could wave a magic wand in your home to freeze everything either made in China, or contains bits, you’d be horrified at what stopped working…including things labelled Sony, Samsung etc. You’d also perhaps be surprised at what the likes of Mx5Parts sell form China.
Don’t get me wrong…I ain’t no Fanboi of Beijing by any means but we cannot do without their manufacturing might…and have not for decades.
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Wow! What is the legislation and who instigated it?
What’s that , a flock of Highland or Lowland Haggis?
I caught one once with a fishing net, but let it go on the side of a hill where they belong
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How dare you get the thread back on track 
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Thank you I will give it a go, and sorry about putting the topic back on track, does it help if I say I have never tried Haggis? LOL!
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Dont Allison.
It might put unwanted hairs on yer chest! 
The only thing that seems to be lasting the test of time that has been manufactured in China is the Wuhan (Corona) Virus. There you go, I said it
I have a Chinese phone and think its great, I don’t care if Xi Jinping knows where I’m standing, everyone is spying on everyone else all over the world, fed up with thinking about it 
P.S. Love Haggis including the Battered chip shop variety.
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No it was very specific, for some reason my reply has been made into it’s own thread so is completely out of context now.
I’m well aware China can make plenty of good things, it’s just that in this case it was junk.
I know they are because i’ve seen inside their manifolds and you’d be quite appalled too if you were to see what i’ve seen.
Racism
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words can move around in this forum… they have a mind of their own…
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Replacement car electronic/electrical parts that come from China, I tend to avoid.
MAFs are particularly notorious.
Unfortunate wording from OP that I guess can be construed as racist. In the bubble thought of my mind, and in the context of the parts I mentioned, I would use the same words.
In writing…no.
How does cheap ■■■■ from China sound ?
I previously manufactured and sold reversing camera kits for the ND. Virtually all the parts came from China. Then the price of the IL Motorsports kits sold by MX5Parts dropped and I pulled out of the market. Those kits are made in Mexico probably from Chinese parts.
The alternative is to buy the much more expensive genuine Mazda kit. This will come in Mazda branded packaging marked with the legend ‘Made in China’.
Also worth saying that on stripping trim from my car to fit the kit the tweeter speakers in the side trim by the windscreen are also Chinese manufacture. Who knows how many other parts in our Japanese cars come from outside the land of the rising sun.
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My previous employer used to construct biological warfare and medical diagnostic eequipment. The consumable for these were made from sub assemblies we had constructed by two seperate factories in China, and final assembly of the module in factories in Mexico, before delivery to the end user. The China factories were not told of the purpose of the widgets they made, only the specification, which they met perfectly, due to the German machinery they used.
In China, there are several tiers of manufacturer. Top tier is as good as anywhere, and they would have contracts with the top multinationals, and meet the appropriate standards.
The middle tier pecialie in the private labels; they generally meet a standard, evidenced through certification. Most of the coilovers for MX5s come from this part of the industry. None of those coilovers brands will actually have their own factory, nor are making any meaninful inputs into design. The difference between them amounts to cosmetic and marginal differences in valving settings. The bottom tier have little dealings with outsie brands, they come up with their own export brandings.
They generally only have a loose, if any, conformation to standards. So they won’t sell into a tightly regulated market (for car parts) like Germany, but will sell into looser regulated markets like the UK or India (the UK doesn’t really have the equivalent of TUV approval. TUV approval is Germany only, and is different from the TUV awarding CE marking).
Middle tier may have two halves to the business. The private label and the own brand. These might not be the same in terms of conformity testing. Think of it like Pork Pies. Samworths make 80% of Melton Mowbray pork pies sold. The pork pies made for Tesco, Marks and Spencer, Waitrose, Sainsbury’s and Morrison’s all come from the same factory. But they don’t all taste the same. Variations are often determined by the price point of the pie. Of course I prefer Brocklebys, even if they look messier.
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On the original MX5, some electrical parts came from Malta of all places.
The original plastic window came from Switzerland, and the vinyl fabric was German. The factory fit Bilsteins shock absorbers and BBS wheels of coure were also German. The original flapper AFM I think was Bosch. The Mk1 Type B lip spoiler was Made in Canada.
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I worked with a guy from the Lincolnshire fens who had a relative in one of the many food factories in the area. They made coleslaw for all the major supermarkets. Every pack was the same apart from the labelling. Some may say that M&S coleslaw is the best. The only difference is that the M&S product is marked with a shorter use by date.
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And what’s wrong with that! 
Oh be careful.
Run the risk of more censorships. 
Names…“are on ze list”. 
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