Intellectually I would prefer hydrogen to EV however Toyota has what I would place at technology demonstrator level rather than full production.
The hydrogen infrastructure and production processes are not mature for mass use, the majority of hydrogen produced currently relies on fossil fuels.
Indeed, citation?
The Dobbies in Cheltenham had an install, but after complaints from non-electric car users they removed it all.
I was also speaking to a company that installs these generators, one running 6 charging points that arenât usually full was run by a generator using 70 litres of diesel per hour! They often have a battery system with them.
We donât have the infrastructure in the mains to run charging staations in rural areas.
But this is often the essence of what turns the whole debate sour (not just this one, but in wider media)- the use of highly emotive, card playing language, which tries to put people into a corner. It just turns people off and makes them raise their browses.
I agree that, as stated, politics needs to be removed from the debate and issues, but this sort of angle of argument is literally just that- use of emotive language to try to shut down debate.
I think people have wised up and grown tired of overplaying the emotive, lowest denominator arguments now, in all sorts of media outlets. It just seems the whole argument is just political in different ways- a case of people with whatever motives they have, trying to get what they want.
You might enjoy this video on jcbâs hydrogen project. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxtxZY45RMM
Also as regards the heat issue; Formula 1, which has for decades been a testbed for new technologies, uses an exhaust heat energy recovery system.
MGU-H is short for Motor Generator Unit Heat and is a system that can for now be found more in racing than in car manufacturing (when present, it is called e-turbo).
It is connected to the turbocharger of the engine, between the turbine and the compressor, and captures the heat energy from exhaust gases and turns it into electrical energy.
It also acts as a control system for the turbo, speeding or slowing it depending on the requirements of the driver. With the use of the MGU-H system, Formula 1 cars have virtually zero turbo lag.
The energy MGU-H stores are used by the MGU-K. (K=kenetic) The amount of power the MGU-H is capable of recovering is huge, meaning it can provide up to 4 Megajoules back to the MGU-K. Thatâs ten times more that it was possible with KERS. This system could be utilised on hydrogen fuelled ICEâs.
Yep definitely agree, the power grid is not designed around electric everything, something weâre seeing now with massive transportation projects (pylons). Currently a proportion of the installed wind base is often paid not to produce because it cannot be delivered at point of demand.
Definitely a time of change and will take a while to settle.
Undoubtedly there is a massive element of that AND media organisations reflecting the views/influences of their backers which are mostly driven by financial interests of one form or another.
There is also the lessening of critical thought and investigation in the general populous, instead taking what is presented via the first link on their device of choice as the truth when often it isnât, or is far more nuanced than presented.
I disagree with that. If anything there is MORE investigation these days, as people havenât just got to accept what âthe papersâ and the main stream media TV channels tell them to think, as per a pre internet/social media world.
(I agree with your first paragraph in your prior post though, which wasnât quoted)
I hope so, I think we will have to agree to disagree on that point at the moment though and let evidence take us one way or the other. Iâm going to stop now as we donât allow political comment here for good reasonâŚ
I guess one solution would be to use the already existing gas lines to transport hydrogen. Make it at source at offshore wind farms using excess power to split seawater. Often during stormy weather, too much power is made from wind so the wind turbine blades are angled so as not to turn. Tidal turbines can also be used where applicable. This has been utilised in Shetland. Shetland â the clean energy islands | Shetland.org
Is âQuite a Fewâ, one, a couple, some or most? Is this something you have seen on social media claiming to be a Welsh charging station, and which has since been extensively debunked
If you believe the debunking sources!!
So you donât believe anything.
If we really want to cut pollution we should look at Cruising the oceans as being anti-social.
Average car pollution 108.1g co2 per km (Could be more than one occupant)
Average Cruise ship 250g co2 per passenger km
as for Sulphur Dioxide 
1 cruise ship equals about a million cars ⌠Iâll let you look up those facts
Most people donât commute to work, or pop to the mother-in-laws, or pop to B&M on a cruise ship though.
My point exactlyâŚbut they still give much more pollution than cars
There is still work to be done on hydrogen, but like I said, in my view this is the sustainable/renewable/green option long term.
As for storage and transport, I wish I knew more, but we already transort petrol, which is highly flamable and explosive, and we already store it. Petrol stations/services are also equiped to store highly flamable and explosive stuff already. Sure it is not the same, but I feel my logic is in the right direction.
If more companies spent the time and money to research hydrogen as fuel, it would be more viable sooner. I have hopes that with the introduction of hydrogen powered cars for the WEC that will engage manufacturers to R&D in that direction too.
I take it back, I couldnât get a car parking space earlier as everyone was out polluting the city with their ocean liners.
They left it too late. Shell and Exxon commissioned research in the 60s which very strongly correlates with the current view of the impacts of their products. Car companies have had decades to think about it, and have been half hearted all along.
We have had three Suzuki Swift sports over the years and they are a cracking little motor. Never had an ounce trouble with any of them. They are very underrated.
Iâm waiting to see if there will be a 2024 new model Swift Sport. Dealers donât seem to know at present.