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On it’s own maybe perfectly harmless but what happens when regular users find them selves back in a non hands free driving car :thinking:

As an example back in the day when Schumacher minor switched from driving for a BMW powered F1 team to a Toyota powered F1 team he was given a new Toyota SUV which he promptly backed into a post not realising his new vehicle was not fitted with the parking sensors that his recent BMW had been fitted with.

Can It avoid potholes?:sweat_smile:

Do we really need to go this way? :thinking:

I’m not a luddite, but there are too many what ifs? - and how does one stand with insurance…

One of the things I prefer in my MX-5 as opposed to my automatic run about, is the feeling of greater control via the use of clutch and gears.

OK call me antediluvian…

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Is your MX5 one of those with ABS? Most of them had it, at least in the UK. Some consider that to be a nanny aid.

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B**gger the cost of insurance [pardon my French!], it’s the potential mortality rate that concerns me.

Whereas I dont have a problem with driverless trains that run on tracks, I am terrified of the idea of driving my Miata on the M1 in a sea of hands-free cars.

David

Trouble is I’m so used to ABS - nanny or otherwise. My T reg Audi had it (along with the walnut dash :heart_eyes:). so have been using it for years.

I remember when it first came out in circuit racing as an underdeveloped technology and my mate crashed hard into Quarry corner at Castle Combe - brake failure! Fortunately he was not injured! Now ABS is pretty standard and works.

However, I’m still really concerned about driverless cars - potentially sensors can fail/computers and bots can do unexpected things… It really scares me!

What if…it’s softwear decides on a Windows update & reboot in fast lane of the M25 on a Friday?
Ha…they did not think of that eh?

Agree with all Posters Comments :clap:

65 yrs on Tuesday so I remember pre ABS and ‘Tomorrows World’ on the BBC

Yet…Recent Report on ‘Smart Motorways’ :thinking:

Quotes I’ve Heard

You Can’t Halt Progress
Progress is an Illusion

The Former tends to Predominate until Too Late with Hindsight the Latter is Recognized

So perhaps it’s just a case of being less ‘Fast and Furious’ with Tomorrows World :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Parts of the M25 are down to crawling speed in the fast lane on Fridays, surely! :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

David

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This is why the UK government had a recent inquiry, and car clubs got into a tizzie over it. There are some pretty essential revisions needed to the Road Traffic Act about where liabilities lie; with the driver, the supplier, the manufacturer, the suppliers of various road sensing technologies (that “speak” to the car).

The Medical World has had this for year. eg the pacemaker issue. Pacemakers can be accessed and controlled remotely, for diagnostic purposes, from anywhere in the world. Diagnostics could incude switching it off…

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A LHD American spec car on RHD roads can be disconcerting for other road users.

MY fear has nothing to do with LHD, but of the reliability of hands-free cars.
My Miata is EU-spec, but I did drive my US-spec 924S (lights and front bumper changed for MOT) in the UK for a year and had no problems. I expected it to be very difficult being on the gutter side, but soon got used to it, and other drivers seemed not to notice.

David

Did not know Mazda sold Miatas in the EU. Thought Miatas were only US/Canada 1989-2005 and 2015 to date. For rest of world, except Japan, MX5s were sold, not Miatas. Maybe your car is a grey import.

Drivers of LHD cars in the UK from the Continent are generally hazardous, and don’t use mirrors. To boot, US cars like Miatas, have funny drivers side mirrors.

My car is not a grey import. Miata = MX-5. Both I and my salesman at the official Mazda dealership call it a Miata, which we find to be a much more attractive name. Why is this a problem for you? :slight_smile:

What do you mean, "dont use mirrors?? I use my mirrors all the time, whichever country I am in!

I wouldnt know about that. The only Miata/MX-5 I ever sat in in the USA was an NA, and that was c.1990.

Best,

David

In the UK, it is a problem for Mazda if I call my Eunos Roadster a Mazda MX5. Its also a problem for the insurance people if I call my car a MX5 (or Miata). They’ll retort its not a MX-5 and needs special order parts. 20+ years ago. Mazda wanted the MX5 Owners Club not to accept any more applications of owners of non-UK specification Mazda MX5s, in particular, Eunos Roadsters and the small number of Mazda Miatas that had washed up.

I know a lot of Continentals like yourself have US spec Miatas (in fact, the oldest surviving Mata is in the Netherlands; a pre-production mariner blue car that escaped the crusher). its genuinely confusing for someone to refer to a Miata when in fact they mean something else. Clarified now.

I don’t know your nationality, I was referring to a general observation of European tourists. There are many studies of wrong hand drive vehicles and accident rates, this being due to blind spots.

As for the subject of automated vehicle controls. Do you regularly take flights and worry about autopilots. Generally, airliners crash on takeoff and landing, when there is a human at the controls.

Interestingly, the orgin of serious work on self guided vehicles really vegan circa 2005. The US had resorted to a long supply chain of mostly civilian trucks between Kuwait and Baghdad and Karachi and Kabul. The convoys were subject to attack and drivers getting lost. The loss of supplies was not an issue, the loss of drivers was.

The Americans, and others, had been working on autonomous vehicles for decades. But post-911 it really got earnest. DARPA, the defence research agency, started awarding annual prizes for vehicles able to travel autonomously for long distance, to shift the research from something acdemic to something that was transformative for US armed forces (the goal was one third of US military capacity to be autonomous by 2015). Carnegie Mellon won the first prize in 2004, with an autonomous Humvee travelling 7 miles before hitting a rock. The last Challenge was in 2007, with a 60 mile urban course.

Today, many car makers are increasingly using remote ECU updates (and monetizing that). One screwed up line of code, and your car is in a hedge. Even non-remote updates; do you lose sleep when Mazda reflashes the ECU? You are already at the mercy of tech.

If you want to get from A to B but don’t want to drive yourself, get a bus or taxi!!! :thinking:

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British – Yorkshire born. Learned to drive in central London and took my driving test in Hendon.

No. I have actually given up travelling by air for various reasons: mainly global warming and the unpleasantness of the experience!

David

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