WestCo MX5 Battery how to recharge

I purchased a new WestCo Battery back in 2011, but my MK1 is located in Spain so it’s not used all that often, however I always disconnect the battery when I know I will not be over for a long period.

Unfortunately last October I forgot to disconnect it and having just come over to Spain for a holiday have found the battery to be dead, in fact there is no charge to even turn an ignition light on, so can only assume the battery is completely dead.

Is there any way to charge the battery?

Can I just jump start the car and then give it a long run to recharge the battery

Thanks for any help

 

 

 

 

no it needs a long trickle charge

So I need to purchase a trickle charger? Is there a particular one to get?

Optimate or Ctek have good reputations, I have an optimate. Both can be left on permanently to maintain the battey.

you may need to parallel it to another battery to start the charging. Modern chargers don’t connect to a completely flat battery

Ok many thanks, have looked at the chargers suggested but am really not sure what one I would need, how to I ascertain what charger to purchase as there are so many model available and many different prices.

Have also got to get it delivered over to Spain, so want to get the correct charger first.

How do you mean parallel it to another battery to start the charging? Sorry am really not technically minded, so need all the help I can get

Once again thanks for all you rhelp

Hi. I got this one and I leave it on all the time.

OptiMate 4 Dual Program 12v Battery Charger

You may well need two chargers as the smart chargers can get far too smart with a flat battery and sometimes say the battery is faulty when it is not.

I have also found that the Westco is not that great a battery in some cases.

Especially in the case you have here.

Therefroe if I were you I would buy the cheapest trickle chargere you can get not a smart one.

This one is very cheap and you can then find out if the battery is still a good candidate to start your car.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-634004-Trickle-Charger-500mA/dp/B001C827ZA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1431795845&sr=8-5&keywords=battery+trickle+charger

Leave it on for a day and if after a day your battery has 12v between the terminals whith the charger disconnected then you have three options.

  1. Buy a £40 smart charger and charge up the battery.

  2. Leave the cheepo one on for a few days put the battery in the car and it should start.

  3. Put the battery in a bath of cold water up to say half way up the side of the battery and charge it on low say up to 4 amps with a standard battery charger for say 3 hours at a time and check its progress.

Do not pay more than £40 for a smart charger and usually a few times a year Lidl or Aldi sell them for about £15.

Do not use a high capacity starting charger on it.

Thanks Drumtochty really helpful I was actually looking at this charger also on amazon as they deliver to Spain http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0012U5BO2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A1IHP75Y5KSG5O Streetwize Car & Motorcycle Automatic Trickle Battery Charger for Gel / Lead Acid Batteries 12 V

Do you think it will be any good?

Go for it.

Thanks Drumtochty will order today

I would just add that My optimate 3 along with a number  of other smart chargers struggle when the voltage gets below a certain value.  From memory there needs to be at least 8 volts.

If the ignition lights are not working, I would suggest your battery is below 7 volts and a most smart chargers will not be able to charge it. 

Your battery appears very flat. so if you have access to a standard battery charger with no smart technology, it’s best to start with this.

Put it on lowest charge setting and charge until voltage is up at the level where the smart charger can take over. Smart chargers are much healthier than standard for these batteries, so I would minimise the use to getting the battery up to say 10/11 volts before swapping to the smart charger.     

This is the main reason why the original Panasonic battery is so popular. It can handle periods of inactivity and does not appear to degrade with regular charging.

It seems to do extremely well in conditions that would normally be thought of as abuse.  Westco have a mixed reputation - hopefully you will be able to recover yours.

No battery will totally recover from being run completely flat.  

 

Have you considered a solar power trickle charger for when the car is not in use? In Spain it would probably be ideal for a car left for long periods. Try looking them up and having a read, it may solve your problem long term.

So if my battery is below the 7volts how would I get a trickle charger to work?

I have ordered a Streetwize Car & Motorcycle Automatic Trickle Battery Charger for Gel / Lead Acid Batteries 12 V so hope this will charge the battery.

I am amazed that the battery is so flat as it was fine back in October last year, but I forgot to disconnect it then prior to returning to the UK. Expensive mistake and wont do that again.

Will also look at the solar trickle charger to see how they compare, thanks for that

Jacton, Rhino was not talking about a trickle charger you made that up!.

Read his post again.

Oops misunderstood

Thanks

Ok got my trickle charger and my battery has now been on charge for 15 hours, however the instructions state that the charger will not work if the battery has less than 1 volt to start with, but as I do not have a voltage checker all I can do is leave it charging for the next few days and see if the red power light on the charger changes to green.

How would you charge the battery if the voltage left in it is below the operating tolerance of the chargers?

Oh well just have to be patient

Hi jacton,

My mk1 came out of a very long spell in mothballs with a dead battery recently but it’s starting absolutely fine now.  This is what I did:

Friend came round with a battery he knew had almost full charge (not attached to a car).  Disconnected mk1 battery, and connected the good battery to it using jump leads.  Connected a mains charger to the mk1 battery, creating a “chain” with the good battery at the end.

The principle is that the mains charger, whilst it won’t charge a dead battery, detects that there’s a good one at the end of the chain, and charges that.  Meanwhile the dead battery is “fed” on the way.

It worked anyway, although it took several hours.  And I will disconnect mine too next time I SORN it!

Hope that helps and you get yours sorted.

Priya

Thanks Priya, will see if I can try that, I have a perfectly good car with a battery in it, do you think that would work?

I suppose I could jump start using my other car but not sure if a run will put any charge into the MX5 or even enough to then put it onto a trickle charger.

Thanks again