Windows 10 to 11!

Hi everyone,

Received a Microsoft email stating no more support for Windows 10 from October 2025,

I have resisted Windows 11 because lots of people that I know don’t like it but are vague as to why,

My HP laptop does not support Windows 11! I’m happy to buy a new laptop but would value members opinions!

Ofiaich!

I’ve got the same message every time I log on, I’m still on window 7 home , I will only change when my computer dies.

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A few people I know are not fans of 11

This was he best summary I found and seems to agree with those who don’t like it

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I have been using W11 for some time now and have no problems with it at all.

Your W10 won’t stop working, it will stop getting patches and updates and that’s where your risk ultimately lies in terms of being compromised by some kind of cyber exploit.

Risks are to be assessed though, not necessary run away screaming from… :grinning: It may be that you choose to accept the risk of running an unsupported operating system as you don’t do anything on the machine that is considered critical.

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In the USA at least, MS is offering continuing updates on W10 beyond Oct 2025 for $30 a year. Cheaper than a new laptop to be sure. Interested to see if they do the same over here. Extended Security Updates (ESU) program for Windows 10 | Microsoft Learn

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Thanks everyone!

IanH, I use my laptop for email, purchasing on Fuller’s Brewery’s website, Amazon and a few others. I also use LINE for video and text chats with friends in Japan.

I also use it for online banking so I guess thats were the risks are…

Widely! Thanks! I will check the link!

Ofiaich!

Hmm, a good question, and it all depends on what you want to use it for, and how deep your pockets are.

W7.
This old laptop is a very fast and capable W7P. Nothing else on the market (when I’ve looked a few times in the last five years) does what I want quite so well and with as little hassle and fuss.

W10.
SWMBO uses a nice fast W10P desktop configured to look like W7P, mainly because that was what she is used to and she didn’t need any of the whizzy extra W10 default features that slowed down the machine.
Fortunately, removing and/or turning off the unwanted sediment is possible with W10P.
It is nice to use; stand-alone, or in the network, or online.

W11.
I’ve recently bought a potentially excellent W11P laptop, except it was crippled by M$ with a raft of nags and excess baggage that I’ve yet to completely eliminate. Civilising W10 was child’s play compared with this; W11 is a bit like playing Whack a Mole.
I would never have bought this one for myself because it lacks too many of the useful built-in features my heavy old W7P machine has, but a relative needs a decent machine and we agreed this would match his requirements perfectly if it was W10.
However, although using a “Local Account” and none of the M$ software, he is now infuriated by random W11 interference from M$ wanting him to set up a “Microsoft Account”.
So it is still work in progress and he finds his Android phone a much more friendly device!
I’m still looking for a Regedit script that will give me the clue to sorting it properly.
However, if one is happy to live in M$'s pocket with a M$ account (cost+) and be tied to logging in there all the time, renting their software and cloud storage (raising bad memories of a terminal on a mainframe with quotas), then W11 is just fine.

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There is a fix for this game.

My mate who is IT based said to set up a local account on the laptop

When you start the Windows 11 installation process, you’ll be asked to sign in with a Microsoft account.
Instead, click on the “Offline account” option at the bottom of the screen.
This will allow you to create a local account on your PC without linking it to a Microsoft account.

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Your laptop is likely failing the W11-ready test because of TPM, which is a BIOS setting that is available on most newer computers but not always switched on by default. Depending how old the laptop is you may simply need to boot into BIOS and enable the feature and then run the test again.

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I’ve got a windows 11 laptop. Easy enough to use. An Acer, but the computer itself is naff. A typical £400 curry’s one. Had it repaired due to a faulty connector on the bit where the battery lead goes into the computer. Wouldn’t buy an ACER again. Flimsy trash. I got one before, back in 2011 and for the same price (accounting for inflation) it was built like a tank.
The pits when you’ve got a perfectly fine computer and you’re de facto forced to get another one.
I’d wait until it’s not supported, then buy your windows 11 one then.

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Do you still use it for sensitive stuff like email, banking? If so, is all still fine? I bought another one due to paranoia over using an unsupported on for stuff like that.

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Thanks MintyRox,

My HP Spectre is about 7 years old. It has an i7 processor.

ND12 thanks too! I use a Samsung tablet S8 and Sony Xperia 1vi for many things.

I will probably wait and see what next year brings!

Ofiaich :grin:

Some i7 devices support TPM - you can try the steps below and see if that helps :slight_smile:

  1. Turn on the computer and press the f10 key to enter the BIOS setup menu
  2. Go to the Security tab
  3. Check the TPM Device status
  4. If the status is Hidden, toggle it to Available
  5. Change the TPM State to Enabled
  6. Press f10 to exit, then click Yes to save the changes
  7. If prompted, press f1 to confirm the changes and restart the computer
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Not recommending any particular brand over any other we recently bought an Asus laptop for SWMBO after a poor experience with Dell. The Asus is a good device and my last two home built high spec PC’s have been based on Asus mainboards

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Thanks MintyRox!

I’ll check this and report back!

IanH! Thanks too! I was checking HP on Currys, and Asus next!

Ofiaich!

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W11 is ok once you get used to using icons rather than written words

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I like Win11. The only thing I didn’t like is the menu when you right click. As you say, a lot of it is icons instead of words.

This will convert it back to the Windows 10 right-click menu…

  1. Right-click the Start button and choose Windows Terminal.
  2. Copy the command from below, paste it into Windows Terminal Window, and press enter.
    reg.exe add “HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32” /f /ve
  3. Restart File Explorer or your computer for the changes to take effect.
  4. You will then see the Legacy Right Click Context menu by default .
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I’d just switch the laptop to Linux if there’s no programs you can’t live without or won’t run under Wine.

My old PC doesn’t meet the requirements, but it’s been running Linux for a year or two since I was having stability issues under Win10 (gpu driver kept hard locking if I ran out of video memory).

I only had two programs I used Win10 for, everything else I can run under either Steams’ Proton (their version of Wine) or already has linux versions so I rarely booted into Win10 anyway.

I did recently get a present of a Win11 laptop, so it’s now running the two Win10 programs in preparation for the Win10 PC going fully Linux.

The Win11 laptop is also main OS Linux, and I’m typing this message on it :wink:

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Thanks everyone!

I will read everyone carefully on Saturday!

A few years back I was well up to speed with RegEdit, backups and all technical Windows issues but I have let it slip!

Learnt Japanese instead! :jp::jp::jp::jp: much easier!

Ofiaich!

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First thing I did was skip M$ a/c and setup local account. Everything is turned off, junk apps right-clicked and uninstalled etc, and all the usual registry tricks have been set correctly. It has TPM2.

However if we access some functions, the M$ a/c Nag returns, eg Home or Search with ads etc even with the ad helpful suggestion options all turned off.
It can also randomly pop up trying to push Onedrive in the middle of locally saving an edited LibreOffice file in Word format!

Quite obviously I’ve still missed a few registry points.
If I was using it myself I’d have spent a lot more effort researching how and purging it.

Several respected ‘clean your windows’ sources forecast that later feature updates will shut opt-out loopholes and force us to have a M$ a/c. At that point I’ll move across to Linux with help from a couple of expert friends.

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