Daytime Running Lights

 Where did you get these from? My next door neighbour is wanting to do similar to his wifes NC.

These work for me, have mine fitted as photos show. Or you could go to Mazda who will fit a module that uses headlamps and costs a@ £80 PLUS labour…

lights = http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LED-Round-Reflector-Brake-Stop-Marker-Light-Indicator-Truck-Trailer-Car-DOT-SAE-/271809903321?var=570636240753&hash=item3f4921fad9:m:mUNKqbjrznGS-iaJFxtCGGw

controller = http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-LED-Daytime-Running-Light-Relay-Harness-Automatic-On-Off-Control-Switch-/131630514579?hash=item1ea5ca4193:g:AwMAAOSwHnFV0MfM

Which lights are you looking at?

Mine are the same as the previous post.

Really?

Everything I have seen and read has always said high intensity rear fog lights may be used when visibility is seriously reduced (less than 100m) which would include spray from heavy rain.

I have also never read a regulation that says to operate front fog lights you must extinguish front dipped lights, which would be pretty much suicidal in the dark in patchy fog.

As someone who regularly drives on motorways etc. towing a long trailer, anyone who thinks that using dipped lights in rain or inclement conditions is wrong and a hazard is basically risking their own lives and the people around them. While heated rear mirrors and are all but standard in cars, many commercial vehicles with large external wing mirrors do not have this facility. They attract spray, from 50 feet back it is all but impossible to spot cars running on side lights or no lights. It is certainly far far easier to not see people especially in the context of lane changes on a motorway. 

Put your lights on and be seen and don’t think just because you have a nice interior mirror and a vehicle that is only 12ft long that everyone else has the same luxury. 

 

Drl’s should only work on their own and should go off or dim when the side lights are turned on the ones that dim are used as the side lights

 

I thought the same, until I looked at the lights on my 2015 Fiesta. It has DRL in the main light clusters. I wanted to see what sidelight bulbs were installed as I assumed that the DRL’s dimmed or went off when the sidelights or headlights were on.

The DRLs dim when the indicators are on, - turning left the left hand DRL dims, and the right hand one dims when turning right, but there is now no sidelight bulb in the light cluster. Ford use the DRL as sidelights, and they do not dim when the headlights are on either - I found that out when I went a different way to the station this morning and saw the front of the car reflected in a shop window.

Thinking about it the DRLs remain on as well on my wife’s 2014 Volvo SC60 when the sidelights and or headlamps are on.

So I guess the law on DRL is evolving all the time.

I bought mine online from MX5 Parts. Halfords also stock the same kit but were about £5.00 more expensive. These seem to suit the car (already with fog lights) and sort of clamp onto a convenient lip in the lower grille with the aid of sticky pads that come in the kit.

Be aware that no cable, switch or dimming switch comes with this kit - I’ve installed a switch which allows me to manually turn the lights off when I turn my headlights on.

[quote=NickD]

Really?

Everything I have seen and read has always said high intensity rear fog lights may be used when visibility is seriously reduced (less than 100m) which would include spray from heavy rain.

I have also never read a regulation that says to operate front fog lights you must extinguish front dipped lights, which would be pretty much suicidal in the dark in patchy fog.

As someone who regularly drives on motorways etc. towing a long trailer, anyone who thinks that using dipped lights in rain or inclement conditions is wrong and a hazard is basically risking their own lives and the people around them. While heated rear mirrors and are all but standard in cars, many commercial vehicles with large external wing mirrors do not have this facility. They attract spray, from 50 feet back it is all but impossible to spot cars running on side lights or no lights. It is certainly far far easier to not see people especially in the context of lane changes on a motorway. 

Put your lights on and be seen and don’t think just because you have a nice interior mirror and a vehicle that is only 12ft long that everyone else has the same luxury. 

At last some common sense!!  Poor visibility, be it fog, rain, smoke or whatever get your lights on.

Crucially be visible to others even if you can see, or think you can.

Keith

 

 

I drive a truck for a living and the amount of vehicles that dont put their lights on when the light is bad is beyond belief.

Its hard to see vehicles in the mirrors at the best of times but when the light is bad, its a lot harder.

But when its raining they seem to find the fog light switch.

best way to use lights is to read the high way code…simples…rule 113, refers to use of side lights and headlights…it is a “You Must”

rule 114 is a “Must Not”…both are black and white in regards of the law…not wot we think…

I like the one about only using side lights if the road is lit by street lamps… Good luck explaining that one to Mr Plod…

 

Yes, saw that in the 2015 Highway Code, Rule 113,  and then in Rule 115 it says you use dipped headlights at night in built-up areas.  Talk about hedging their bets!

Confused?  You will be if there’s many more contradictory rules contained therein. 

Had a similar discussion about this one. I say always dipped headlights at night, some disagreed.

You do see folk driving with sidelights though at night, and in the fog too yesterday.

Just fitted dlrl to my eunos import ,neat hockey stick shape in the grill opening, the dimming relay fits nicely on the inner wing all legal ,on when engine runnig ,dimmed when side/heads are on total costs under 25 quid+ an afternoons easy work photos later

The law requires that in bad weather or adverse driving conditions you use DIPPED HEADLIGHTS and NOT sidelights, which should be known as parking lights. DRLs are for the benefit of others, not the driver of the car in question. The numbers of drivers I see using only parking lights is astounding. The vehicle cannot often be seen until it becomes visible by which time it often too late to take avoiding action. Going back a few years, when DRLs were not obligatory, Volvo had DRLs at front and rear of vehicles but not, unfortunately, they too seem to have dropped the rear ones.

Seen several cars driving around at night with DRL on.

The driver gets in the car when it’s dark, starts it and sees white light at the front.

 

They set off unaware that these are DRL (rather than automatic headlights that they don’t have!) and they have no lights at the back.

One would think they might notice the lack of instrument lighting on their dash !! 

The problem with some drivers is that they take very little notice of what is going on around them!

My Fog light and DRL conversion:

'…and dim when sidelights/headlights are on

 

I would like to fit DRL’s into the foglight blanks on my front bumper. My car is a 2001 mk 2.5. Is there a suitable round DRL that would fit into the hole if I remove the plastic blanking panels?
I would prefer round ones rather than the straight strips, although I could attach a straight strip onto the plastic blanking panel if a round one is not suitable. Any suggestions…

You should also put your headlights on when the sun is low, very bright and behind you. The vehicles coming towards you are often blinded by the low sun. I also drive an HGV and on the motorway in these conditions it’s often impossible to see cars approaching you at speed from behind in your mirrors.

 

As I remember it - Fog lights are for fog and falling snow, and should be used in conjunction with dipped beam headlights but go off (for the front) when main beam is switched on… but I stopped being a Cop some years ago so I may be out of date.

As a rule of thumb - sidelights should only be used when parking, and indeed are obligatory when parking against the flow of traffic, subject to other conditions. I agree that rear fogs are a PITA in heavy rain, and the majority of users tend to have no idea they’re still on.

If you’re having difficulty picking out oncoming vehicles without lights then make sure you’ve got your dipped beams on. Personlly I’m always a bit bemused as to what the drivers who use sidelights feel they’re achieving… perhaps they believe it’s going to save their battery?

Just for interests sake, the Highway Code is an advisory document and not in itself law, but contravention of any of the rules therein may be used as evidence to support a case of driving w/out due care, w/out reasonable consideration for other road users, or dangerous driving.

I also suspect that it may reduce any award by your Ins Co. if you are involved in an incident and you were found not to be adhering to the HC.       As an example - Your payout will be halved if you are the innocent party in a collision where you are injured and found not to be wearing your seat belt…