EBC Ultimax or Greenstuff pads?

MX5 parts currently have an offer on a set of vented discs plus EBC Ultimax pads.

I have been seduced by the adverts for EBC Greenstuff pads though. I don’t drive particularly spiritedly.

What is the difference in feel with the Greenstuff ones?  Also do the Greenstuff ones need to be heated up

to work properly?

 

Regarding the discs, again should I get the $$$ out and go for the EBC Turbo Groove or EBC Ultra quiet?

Your opinions and experiences please.

Not used greenstuff but ultimax are shocking,put it this way its the first set of pads ever i’ve removed before they have worn out!!

Got them on two of my MX’s never had a problem…been good on track as well…Can you let me know what problems you had with them…would be nice to know Thumbs up

I also find the Ultimax pads fine for every day road use but for hard driving and track use they give up pretty early on, the Greenstuff pads are a good fast road pad and work from first cold application of the brakes and have a slightly higher operating temperature envelope before they cook themselves, supposedly they produce less brake dust but I cant say I ever noticed. At more than twice the price of the OEM mirroring spec of the Ultimax items it is a bit questionable if they are worth the extra dosh for every day use.

I recently fitted Mintex front pads and have been very happy with them so far.

I like dimple drilled and radially grooved discs and have had them on MX5s in the past, some folk say they are noisier and pointles but I think they are a good idea and a lot better at dissipating hot gasses and clearing water from the disc/pads when driving in wet conditions.

I have recently changed from Mintex on the front and some unknown brand on the rear of my MkI to EBC Greenstuff and I am absolutely delighted with them. They bedded in reasonably quickly and I now have brilliant, progressive and dependable braking!

IMHO, they are certainly worth the price I paid from MX Parts. Thumbs up

I have the EBC Turbo Grooved from Motoring classic (good deal  in STHT) with Green stuff pads.

The EBC Green stuff do need a little warming up before you use them hard, have a layer that helps  them bed in.

I found same problem with Ultimax and they where ditched after 350 miles, too much dust and no bite.

The EBC dimpled and grooved take a little getting used to but the reduced stopping distance is well worth the extra money from standard.

I upgraded from 1.6 > 1.8 disc, caliper and carrier on the front

 I put ultimax pads in my 323F and was pleased with them. I have since put a set in the front of my 1991 Mk1 and while they work well they do seem to be producing lots of black dust, which is a bit of a pain. Probable notice as the MX5 is kept cleaner than the 323F.

I Agree   I have the Ebc dimpled and grooved discs with green stuff pads.  The green stuf are just great and on track I’m the last of the late brakers and they stop me on a sixpence with little fade. Recomended by me anyway

 

very small working temperature range and lack of feel would be my biggest complaints, persoanally i’d take oem mintex or similar over ultimax’s every time, on the flipside the red and yellowstuff used on other cars have always been very good so i’m not having a dig at ebc on the whole but ultimax pads are not the best available for the price they are at imho!

Green  bite from cold  ,little dust, do fade quickly but bite come back.

used on sparkle for the last 8 years and did 12 laps of the nurburgring.

Red . Found they needed to warm up. Very long lasting . Took em off as I was doing to many road miles to have a low bite pad do swooped to…

yellows  good bite from cold. Great a high temp-lots of dust not soo long lasting 800 track miles!

been on uma for 3 years and is all I use on the mk3 race car. I really can’t fault em .

 So my advice is normal road driving . Green if you like to press on or do trackdays then yellow.

standard discs are well upto the job. If there not you need to let go of the brake a bit more!

 

Alan

So you preffer yellow stuff over green on track.   I might take you up on that and try the yellows next time although green have been good to me. 

Cheers Neil

Yes the yellows are better at handling the the higher temps.

ive used all 3 on road and track and the greens are a good replacement for road use

redstuff never seemed to do anything better other than last ages .

yellows do all things well and are only slightly more.

Note that there is an EBC direct shop on e bay and prices are considerably lower than other places.under £60for 1.8 fronts.

i just got a set of yellow fronts for Blyton to replace the half red half oem pads I found lurking in my garage!

cos after 4 90-50 threshold stops every 80 seconds for 5 laps the calliper started smoking!

Alan

Just get rodders pads & drive end thread.

I’ve got “Greens” and EBC Slotted disks all round on mine.  They are great for road use and work well from the off.

At Blyton last year, they faded very quickly, so not a track pad.  Also, despite what their ad says, they are quite dusty.

Have run green stuff with standard Nipparts discs for 15,000 miles over 18 months and they have been great, currently about half worn with the disks in very good order so will probably give them another 4 to 5 thou before slotting in a new set of greens with those disks, ie two sets of pads to a set of disks is a good ratio. Also using steel braided flex hoses to the calipers, Dont forget these as they give a consistant pedal in all conditions and well worth the investment, probably the strongest part of any brake performance gain`s all round Thumbs up

 

 

Only £54 from me Alan Cool

 I have fitted Ultramax to a couple of road cars. They work fine for general use but I found them really dirty. I hate dirty wheels and they were black all the time with Utramax. Yes i;m sad i know.Confused

 

 When you brake, all the energy goes into the brakes and something has to give. Pads that don’t dust put the wear into the disc and those that do dust are wearing the pad. Ultimax wear the pad, it creates dust which is fine if you have wheel trims, but on the plus side they are very cheap. You could have 3 sets for the price of Green Stuff and 4 sets for Yellow. 

Pads that will wear the discs more will last longer and dust less, but you will end up replacing the discs more frequently. Also they tend not to have great initial bite as they like to be warm.

However with a set of decent EBC discs at £40 and a fitting time of about 10 minutes per side you are not talking telephone numbers whichever way you go. A set of MK1 Green Stuff and EBC discs should cost you about £82. 

This.

Rodders pads are awesome.