hi guys
has anyonr fitted a HID kit on a mk1?
i have always fitted a conversion kit to all my other cars just thought if it could be done to the mx-5 as it has pop up lights
does the mk1 take H4 bulb size for the man beam ?
also is the main bean and high beam to bulbs in one lens?
It has been done, but it’s illegal
HID Kit?
Envious of those ultra bright Xenon lights you see on most high-end prestige cars these days?
You need a HID Conversion Kit from XENONSHOP.[;)]
No, Just wondered what it meant.
That wasn’t me, twas a quote from a website[:)]
HID = high intensity discharge
always bought these kits from ebay and they all ways work great so will do this to my mk1
not illegal if you use the 6000k this will pass MOT
if you go for 8000k has the blue tint which will fail and get stopped by police
kits are only £40 from ebay posted and they work a treat
trust me once you done one car you do them all i have used this kit on evey car i have owned in last 2 years
great proudct
Passing MOTs has nothing to do with legality (in this case).
Until recently, a numberplate could have been a sheet of A4 with macaroni lettering - it only had to be legible, the materials or font didn’t matter.
See here (and goodness knows how many other places! [:)]) for some more info http://www.mx5oc.co.uk/forum/forums/p/3539/18187.aspx#18187
Here sre the FACTS from theDepartment for Transport website, the red highlight is done by me
The following is the legal rationale:
The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under
these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned
and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of
the law.
However new vehicles have HID headlamps.
This is because they comply to European type approval Regulations. The
UK cannot refuse to register a vehicle with a European type approval.
These are to ECE Regulation 98 (for the HID headlamps which are tested
on a rig in a laboratory) and ECE Regulation 48 (Lighting Installation
on the vehicle).
For the after market, a used
vehicle cannot obtain type approval because it is only applicable for
new vehicles. However we feel that saying “HID is banned in the after
market” would not be reasonable. Instead we should make analogies with
new vehicles. It would be reasonable to require HID in the after market
to meet the same safety standards as on new vehicles. The same level of
safety should apply.
Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should:
be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.
when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be
complied with (although no government inspection will take place).
In practice this means:
1.
The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved
to ECE 98 and be “e-marked” to demonstrate this. That can only be done
by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp
in an independent laboratory.
2. Once fitted to the
vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be
for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive
estate cars have “self-levelling suspension” and that is adequate).
Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.
Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.
In
summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp
unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced
with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be
installed in accordance with the rules stated above.
If
you require any further information regarding the regulations covered
by this fact sheet, please contact the DfT at the address below:
Transport Technology and Standards 6
Department for Transport
Zone 2/04
Great Minster House
76 Marsham Street
London
SW1P 4DR
Telephone: 020 7944 2078
Fax: 020 7944 2196
Email: TTS.enquiries@dft.gsi.gov.uk
I hope that makes it clear enough, as I said earlier, people have fitted HID lights to the MX5 Mk1, but they/you do so at your own risk, it’s your licence that will get the points not mine[;)]
Small update. Came across this “new” product:
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=15729
These High Intensity Discharge
(HID) headlamp kits are offered as an upgrade to standard H4 type
bulbs. They are E-mark Approved (E13) and should be fitted in
accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions and to the correct beam
alignment for your car. As with any aftermarket accessory it is the
responsibility of the purchaser to determine suitability of this
product for their use. Please check that this product conforms to any
regional regulations.
This product conforms to:
E13 is a Luxembourg type approval. Luxembourg approvals are done on a one time basis, whereas German (E1) are retested annually. A lot of E13 testing is carried out outside the EU, by approved testing agencies, such as in China. Guess which is the cheaper standard to pass. There are also allegations that some companies are misselling these kits; parts of the kits might indeed be type approved (and in the ad, there is no indication as to which EU directive is being fulfilled, it could be tractor trailer lighting for all I know), but the entire kit itself is not. The other numbers quoted are meaningless as far as product legality or safety goes; they are basically manufacturing standards.
There should be a test report available, relating to the ECE number Moss quotes (and Moss should have seen), which is similar in format to this:
http://www.atechtpe.com.tw/products/upload/PCC609_c.pdf
And a reply from Moss:
Well, there you go, technically a no no throughout EU, despited meaningless E-markings. Fit at your own risk.
I want to fit HID to my mk1 soon…
Has anybody done it yet? I am concerned about ballast positions and the wiring running into the pop-up lights.
I could be the first?
Found these a while ago whilst ordering spares for my Jag. Not cheap but you do get a complete kit including new head light units. Should fit any car with 7" head lights.
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=15729
Oops, wrong link, heres the right one.
doing as we speak
will have pics up soon !!
hurry i wanna see lol 
well guys just under 2 hrs and my new winter lights are all fitted and working
and the result best £65 i have ever spent bring on the winter
i have added pics of the differance from old to new head lamps and shown how much brighter the new HID’s are
also pics on where i have fitted the ballast overall job pretty simple DIY was good fun
cheers
chris