While im looking ahead for future mods i was trying to compare the BBR packages side by side. not easy to do on their website. so i lifted the values off in 250rpm intervals to overlay them on a BHP power curve. then decided to break down the £’s spent per horse on each of the packages. I havent …

The current BBR manifold for the Super 200 (post ND2 introduction) doesn’t yield as much power, but more torque. About 202-205 bhp with full exhaust. BBR aren’t that forthcoming about this on their website, and it can lead to some (on-paper at least) disappointment. Drives brilliantly through.

[image] Bol: The current BBR manifold for the Super 200 (post ND2 introduction) doesn’t yield as much power, but more torque. About 202-205 bhp with full exhaust. Yes, that’s my setup and it made 200.3hp @ 7050rpm. Neil confirmed it was due to the manifold redesign for the ND2.

Are those figures crank horsepower or wheel horsepower?

dont suppose you have a thread link or dyno for that? i would love to have a read though :slight_smile:

Based on BBR quoting 160 ‘‘stock’’ on all their charts, it would be safe to say its calculated Crank BHP

[image] DirtyHabit: dont suppose you have a thread link or dyno for that? [image] ND1 BBR Super 200 - what did you hit on the dyno? Engine, Transmission, Exhaust etc My model of MX-5 is: 2016 ND 2.0 Sport Recaro I’m based near: Stafford I’m looking for technical hel…

My dyno below. 2015 Sport Nav with Super 200 (catted manifold, midpipe and GT back box) fitted in 2023. [IMG_2426]

Ah I see, so the 160bhp is wheel horsepower. Crank hp is quoted as 181. So it seems all the figures are WHP. So crank HP is probably closer to 300bhp for the turbo. Which, if my maths is correct, is about 10psi boost.

not sure how we have crossed there, but no. there no numbers here which are wheel horse, on this thread. everything is calculated Bhp Unless i am to be corrected. BBR do state in afew places too ‘engine hp’ with the figures used above :+1: also for the supercharger, they specifically throttle the…

All the figures are crank horse power values. 181 bhp is the converted quoted figure for the 2L engine found in ND2 (2019+) MX-5s, I say converted quoted as it is listed as 184 ps / 135 kW in the brochure. My understanding is that this thread is covering the 2L engine found in ND1 (2015-2018) MX-5…