Eeerrrrmmm! Barrie, I think I’ll leave this one to someone who knows what they’re doing. OK?
Ha! Thanks Roger! I’ve just looked a lot closer at the Russian image, it actually shows the black terminals connected too, after all ! So that doesn’t substantiate what I read on the AV forum
Barrie
In comparison Barrie my systems are simple, a separate pre-amp driving (A) stereo amp(s) or (B) mono block amps., Those new units of yours combine an integrated pre-amp with an amp that can be either stereo or mono block, without proper detailed instructions (and a five year old child) they would confuse the heck out of me! I reckon that you need the advise of Roadie/RichardFX to sort this. Good luck!
That’s sort of what I’m hoping for Roger I can do the mentality of a 5 year old bit, it’s the rest I’m struggling with!
Barrie
So…
Would still be better to use a line level output from your receiver such as ‘tape out’.
If you do want to use a line level converter from the speaker outputs here’s how. Your converter has two inputs and two outputs for left and right. Connect the inputs to the left and right of either speaker A or B, not both. So you now have two line level outputs from the converter for left and right.
Look carefully at the inputs on your monoblocks. Line in L and R marked above them. However look below the sockets and the red R socket is also marked as ‘Bridged in’.
So a single RCA lead from the left output of your converter to the R socket of the monoblock you are using for the left channel.
Then a single RCA lead from the right output of your converter to the R socket of the monoblock you are using for the right channel.
Thanks Paul, so I only need one line level converter as there are 4 input wires (or two pairs) that would take up say, Speaker A outputs. Then as you say, split the RCA outputs to each amp, then output from there to one speaker per mono-block! I presume the tape out sockets will give line level to the mono-blocks, irrespective of source on the main amp, so all will be golden
Thanks again and I will report back once I get chance to try it all out.
Barrie
Yup. Spot on.
Well, I’ve only gone and done it!!!
From help, advice and guidance on here, ( not too bad for a car forum), I’ve disconnected the entire set up as it was in the spare bedroom and reassembled some of the components to look like this.
Only got the tuner/ amp connected fully to the mono-blocks just to test.
Reinstated the fabulous LEAK 600’S for this occasion too!

The mono-blocks connected as previously discussed, reassured by advice gratefully received

Rear view of main amp with speaker outs to line level converter.
All working very nicely, just need some sort of low stands for these amps now.
Its weird being able to individually set each speaker to give the sound you want?
Talking of sound, hearing great clarity from the tuner, better than ever!
I want to connect the AKAI R to R deck so need to have a think about tape in outs for direct mono-block connections, the AIWA cassette deck to connect in too!
Barrie
Just realised, both the AIWA AX-7600 and the AKAI 4000DS have 5 pin DIN plugs, so can connect them directly to each other for play/record on rear are further inputs/outputs so should be able to connect the mono-blocks directly AND the AIWA 6600 cassette decks
I’ll save all that for another day though.
Barrie
Just connect your reel to reel, cassette and everything else to the receiver as you would normally do. Forget about the monoblocks. The line level converter, monoblocks and speakers have just replaced whatever speakers you had on the system before. Do all the source selection on the receiver as before. Whatever comes out of the speaker outputs will be fed through the monoblocks.
One other thing, to minimise noise you should have the volume reasonably high on the receiver and low on the monoblocks. Maybe start at 6 out of 10 on the receiver and 1 out of 10 on the monoblocks. If that’s not loud enough then wind up the monoblocks to what you consider to be maximum required. Then just use the receiver volume for whatever you need at the time.
Just don’t melt your speakers…
Wow Baz all linked together just in time to get the Space X Capsule down,well done Mission control, Leeds Earth Station, catch up soon, Rob.
Thank you chaps
Paul, I remember using my Sony wireless headphones and using the same principal as you advised. Doing it the other way created hiss. So will definitely be doing it the ‘roadie’ way!
Richard, hopefully won’t come to that TBH, I’ve been really cautious in my initial testing, however, I have been tempted to increase the volumes, both on the mono-blocks and the main amp, independent of each other, to good effect, although only in short bursts!
Rob, how’s it going mate? Hope you are well and I will catch up with you at some point in sunny N Wales when things settle down.
Barrie
I know how you feel.
I’ve not been on the forum much this last week because I’ve just replaced my security cameras and DVR with what is now the third iteration. It’s gone from Standard Definition to very High Definition, and with the benefit of intelligent cameras so I only needed to climb the ladder a couple of times to remove old and fit and aim new using a mobile to look at the pictures, all the rest of the camera fettling can be done inside in comfort from the DVR.
It is easy enough to say and plan, so just how hard could it be? I’m supposed to know all about video and digits and computers, and I’ve done this before, but…
The expectation was a two day job. It turned out just as well I temporarily left the awkward to reach old SD ones in place and practised just on the easily accessed new HD camera by the front door. Learning how to interpret the vast and convoluted DVR menu system (I did read the manual, many times), and how to drive the DVR locally or from PC or phone was a royal pain. It ended up as a one week job, only made possible by drawing out an overall outline of the Menu structure, an A3 paper MAP!
The cameras were lovely (their manual had such a Map), but fiddling about with the confusing and muddled menus on the DVR has taken a few too many days, and today I got fed up with its fan noise (it is not a noisy fan, but a noisy case).
So this afternoon it was surgery on the brand new DVR to machine out the grille (a forest of tiny howling holes punched into the case), and turn the fan around so the draft hits the big heat-sink inside. Now it’s as quiet as the old DVR which had the same Sunon fan! I have a filtered grille on its way which will make it a lot quieter still.
Grief and frustration and wasted time, but the sharp and noise-free pictures (even at night) make it all worth while. And it can be easily accessed using browser (FF works nicely) from PC and phone - if they have enough bandwidth.
Old quiet DVR fan aperture
New DVR with noisy forest of holes
New DVR working quietly with forest felled.
It will have this filter to keep dust and fingers out. I’ll put the fixing holes in when the filter arrives, no margin for error on something so small.
Richard, I feel your pain…only more so 'cos I haven’t got a clue what you were talking about.
Barrie
us mere mortals don’t stand a chance Richard!
Barrie
Was that the gig set up by Capital Radio?
If so, I was there too
Well, its been over 2 weeks since any posts on here! Also, I feel like I’ve been slacking a bit! So, nipped over to Oldham this morning and picked up a hifi rack. Been after another one for a while to put some gear back into the lounge but everything half decent is so expensive new. In these circumstances, FB Marketplace can throw up all sorts of stuff
This mornings prize is a Sounds Organisation metal with glass shelves stand.
Old skool, very heavy and extremely solid! 5 adjustable levels, hold in place with Allan bolts and steel backing plates in steel side frames. Shelf frames are steel square section with glass shelves.
Not actually connected anything up yet, just brought stuff down from the upstairs office to the lounge, adjusting the shelves as each piece went in!
I’ve actually put equipment in, facing the wrong way?

The stand is ready for floor spikes (my go to choice for damaging floor coverings) which I’ve ordered along with cups for them to stand in. So will shuffle stuff around when moving the stand into its final position.
I’m also compromising with MrsB who has acknowledged the need (my need) for HIFI gear to be reinstated in the lounge

The compromise is the speakers! I have the Polk T50’s, Tannoy Eclipse and the LEAK 600’s to choose from, or so I thought!
So, the Mourdant Short M10’s will have to do but I have a cunning plan!



Barrie
You sly old fox Barrie.
I know what you mean though - one has to be a bit underhand sometimes. Unfortunately, my good lady wouldn’t be fooled one bit, and she insists that the living room is too small for a full-blown Hi-Fi, so I have to be content with digitised music files played from a laptop through our sound bar / superwoofer thingy connected to the TV etc.
It doesn’t sound bad to be honest (I can adjust the bass on the sound bar), but there just isn’t the ‘presence’ of a proper, old-school Hi-Fi !
She’s quite good in other ways though, and she tolerates my three 1970s vintage Sony systems dotted around the house and garden (well, summer house !).
Stand look the biz !